I listened to the presentation earlier today and found it interesting. I
just wanted to clarify, msn wasn't really mentioned or if it was I missed
it. Can people who use msn or have a hotmail address access keyChat?
from Andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>
To: "Paul Tandy" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty
What you are all forgetting is that laptops and netbooks do not have
Braille displays or blind-friendly interfaces. If you like Windows then
go for it, but I like keysoft more, especially with the display. I know
that I will never run into an app not being supported, my display not
connecting right, needing to ask a sighted person what the screen says
when JAWS stops working for some reason... Braille notetakers definitely
beat mainstream mobile devices in these areas, which is why I think they
will always have their own nitch in the tech market.
Have a great day,
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Tandy <[email protected]
To: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <[email protected]>,
[email protected],[email protected]
Date sent: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:17:19 -0900
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty
No, you can easily just buy a laptop that isn't even half as much
as a Braillenote.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <[email protected]
To: "Grant Hardy"
<[email protected]>,<[email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:42:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty
Trant,
Remember that Dave mentioned that AOL was in talks with Google
for about a
year, and that they might be migrating to this new Protocole in
yet another
year--by end of 2009. That's one year of talking and another of
possibly
moving over.
Want to play the waiting game?
Are you smarter than a fifth grader? Then, I suggest you look at
a netbook
you like for less than $500, in time to think and save up for a
Braille
Note, Stale Toat.
Antonio Guimaraes
If an infinite number of rednecks riding in an infinite number of
pickup
trucks fire an infinite number of shotgun rounds at an infinite
number of
highway signs, they will eventually produce all the world's great
literary
works in Braille.
Shop online and support the NFB of RI at no additional cost to
you.
http://www.givebackamerica.com/charity.php?b=169
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Hardy" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty
Hi Dave,
You're correct, and I apologize - particularly as I paraphrased
your
comment
along with your name, I should have done so less sloppily, and
did indee
dmisrepresent what you had said. My apologies.
What I meant (correctly, I think) is that HW is implying that
closed
instant
messaging protocols will decrease in popularity, and while they
may do so
some day, I feel certain that Windows Live and Yahoo!'s
protocols will go
strong for many months to come.
Regards,
Grant
Grant
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:34 PM, dave wilkinson
<[email protected]
wrote:
Dear Grant,
In your post to the BrailleNote listsereve, you misrepresented
what I
said. I said that more and more chat clients were using XMPP,
and as
proof of that Greg Stillson cited AOL's discussions with Google.
The
point wasn't that chat services are going away, it is that they
are
starting to use more open platforms.
Dave
Dave Wilkinson
Western Region Blindness Product Specialist
800-722-3393, ext. 241
[email protected]
www.humanware.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Grant Hardy
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:04 PM
To: BrailleNote mailing list
Subject: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty
Hi all,
In today's Tech Talk presentation on KeySoft 8, I emphasized the
fact
that while nearly everyone on the University of British Columbia
campus
with me carries around laptops and mobile devices with Windows
Live
Messenger and Yahoo! Messenger, I know nobody who uses Google
Talk,
iChat, or any other open instant messaging service. And with
two other
notetaking products--the Braille Sense and the PAC
Mate--supporting
Windows Live, I asked at what stage, if at all, the BrailleNote
would
follow suit. In an evasive response, Dave Wilkinson from
Humanware
implied that somehow Windows Live and Yahoo! were going to
disintegrate,
so it really isn't necessary anyway.
Not true: the one and only reason neither Yahoo! nor Windows
Live need
to use an open instant messaging standard is due to the sheer
volume of
users who already populate their services. Rather than adapting
to this
truth as other competing products have, the BrailleNote from
Humanware
will change the way you communicate in realtime...if you can
convince
everyone you know to switch instant mesaging clients.
There is also no way to sign in invisibly (also called appearing
offline) in KeyChat. This is standard in all other messaging
clients
that I have come across, and is a great way to see who's online
without
getting flooded with instant messages. Greg Stilson from
Humanware
discounted this and called it "kinda creepy", so apparently the
BrailleNote user base will not see this function, either.
Normally I don't rant, but I am upset with the attitude of these
Humanware
representatives: instead of politely stating that these
essential
features are not yet present in KeyChat, they instead discounted
their
importance.
So to summarize: communicate in real time with the 1 % of your
friends
that KeyChat will support, and don't expect to be able to sign
in
invisibly, cuz that's just kinda creepy!
Grant
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