--- Ray Ludenia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gautam Mukunda wrote:
> 
> >   At least the people
> > arrested aren't dropped into paper shredders now.
> 
> Can you provide a (recent) reference to this having
> really happened? As far
> as I can find out, this is a furphy and has been
> shown to almost certainly
> be propaganda.
> 
> See from a (not totally reliable) site:
>
http://www.crikey.com.au/politics/2004/03/04-0002.html
> 
> If you say it often enough, it must be true?
> 
> Regards, Ray.

I can, as a matter of fact.  The testimony on plastic
(not paper) shredders was given under oath, among
other things.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/interviews/comment/0,11660,982922,00.html

>From _The Guardian_ no less.

If you deny the evil of Saddam Hussein often enough,
you can pretend the mass graves didn't exist? 
Something like that, I guess.

I guess, in the best case scenario, he was a sadistic
mass-murderer who used chemical weapons on innocent
civilians, mass torture, and employed professional
rapists as interrogators (actual identification cards
exist with the profession listed as "Defiler of
women's honor", but _didn't_ drop people feet-first
into plastic shredders...except he did that too, of
course.

There is something profoundly twisted about this sort
of thing.  People _on this list_ are happy to proclaim
that the elected leader of the world's oldest liberal
democracy is a wannabe fascist on the slimmest of
hallucinatory evidence.  But sworn witness testimony
about the depravity of a totalitarian dictatorship is
"propaganda".  Amazing.

=====
Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Freedom is not free"
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com

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