----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Objective Evil


> At 02:41 PM 8/8/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
> >> The Catholic Church would argue that no, one should not... evil to
> >prevent evil is still
> >> evil.
> >>
> >> In reality, all the Catholic Church is saying here is the simple moral
> >> precept that "the ends do not justify the means."
> >
> >I may not have been as clear to others as I was to myself in the last
post.
> >What I am saying is that the just war argument is very much a "ends
> >justifies the means" argument.
>
> If I follow your logic correctly, you seem to be saying that:
>
> The killing of innocent people is an objective evil.   (True)
>
> War kills innocent peoplle.  (Mostly True)
>
> Therefore, War is Objectively Evil.
>
> This conclusion, however, is a Syllogism, and is False.
>
> It is not the intent of someone undertaking a just War to kill innocent
> people.    This intent is important.

And I quote from the website.

"One may not do evil so that good may result from it."


Thus, the church opposes the use of condoms in Africa to decrease the
spread of AIDs because birth control is an objective evil.  Even thought
the outcome is the saving of numerous lives, which is a good.

Dropping bombs on people is evil; there is no way around it.  When we do it
in a war, we definitely do evil to do good.

One way the American bishops were self-consistent with this argument is
when they said nuclear deterrent was inherently evil.

Dan M.


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