On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:26:43 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> You talk all the time about Kosovo.  Do you know
> _anything_ about the war?  It doesn't seem like it.
> Or what we did in Iraq, for that matter.  Here's one
> ...Milosevic continued to run Serbia for quite a while
> after our Kosovo campaign.  That might have made a
> difference.  Serbia was a bitty country with the
> economic resources of my college roommates.  Iraq has
> some of the largest oil reserves in the world.
> Yugoslavia is in the middle of Europe, with democratic
> countries nearby.  The nearest democracy to Iraq is
> Israel.  Our goal in the Kosovo war was to persuade
> the Serbian government not to conduct genocide in
> Kosovo.  Our goal in Iraq was to overthrow the Iraqi
> government.  All of that just for starters.  I know
> that somewhere, as you acquired such extensive
> expertise in national security affairs, you might have
> picked up an understanding that different wars require
> different tactics.  Iraq <> Kosovo.  Therefore
> prolonged air bombardment might not have gotten what
> we wanted.
> 
> One final point.  You continually talk about Kosovo as
> a well-conducted campaign.  Within limits, I agree,
> although, _knowing something about that campaign_, I
> give Wesley Clark far less credit than you do for it.
> Could you name another military figure involved in the
> campaign, btw?  Just out of curiosity.  But John
> Keegan, often called the finest military historian of
> his generation (that is, again, Dr. Brin, someone who
> knows what he is talking about - a useful
> characteristic), described a recent war conducted by
> the US as the most successful war ever fought by a
> democracy against a dictatorship. 

John Keegan is called "a brilliant military historian" on the Free
Republic website.  No wonder you often seem so misinformed, you are
getting your info from Freepers!
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/542279/posts

Other people who have looked at his work says he seems to have
problems with little things called facts.
http://hnn.us/articles/1792.html

Despite being a military historian and lecturer, Keegan has never been
in the military or in battle himself as he often admits.  <Too many
sources to pick one.>

The Iraq War, the book you seem to be referring to without mentioning
by name,  has been called a combination of "brilliance and idiocy." 
It was a book written to get quick sales and says the war was over
when Bush unflurled the Mission Accomplished banner.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1400041996/qid=1089575142/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/102-0279083-4911355

> Except he wasn't
> referring to Kosovo.  He was referring to our recent
> campaign against Saddam.  But I'm sure that, like
> everyone else who disagrees with you, he's just a
> partisan hack.  

Actually, he is the conservative military writer the the UK
Independent who thinks we have to go after Islam because this
terrorist war is "in their nature."
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/stories/s387060.htm

>I would at least think, Dr. Brin,
> given the extent to which your statements during the
> main campaign itself were, ummm, not supported by
> events, you'd be a little more cautious treading on a
> field that's just a _little bit_ outside your area of
> expertise.

Your expertise lately seems to be partisan slash attacks using Freeper
sources and arguments.

> 
> I will continue this discussion if it seems you're
> interested in discussing, not lecturing from a
> position of Olympian ignorance.
> 

Olympian hubris thy name is neo-con.

Gary Denton
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