Stu, Your email was going so well until the middle paragraph.
I will give the mild-mannered response - I think everyone would like to go to a tour event with good accommodation, food, facilities, etc. Even if there isn't a Toga-dry-cleaners on site. As people have suggested, it would be nice to have a uniform standard at Tour A & B events, so people don't have to adjust to anything other than the standard of play. Andy UTB -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Greer Sent: 05 April 2005 16:36 To: britdisc@near.me.uk Subject: Re: [BD] Tour 2 view point of issues raised by Jon Palmer Surley a solution to the difference in times and organisational problems for TDs would be to split the two tours to different venues, which is what I half expect to be happening this year and am supprised it hasen't happened already. This way womens and Tour A could be at one venue (or even two) and Tour B could be at another. This way tournaments could be more tailored to the participants. ie Tour A could have less enthusis on parties and more on providing good food and accom for the old men, while Tour B could be more about parties to attract the beginners and students into Ultimate and could also have longer games like A tour. (I know this is a generalisation of Tour A and B but probably true). This also makes it easier to schedule full games with decent gaps for all three competitions, and it means that venues don't have to be limited to ones that can hold 30+ pitches, so more people from different areas can bid for tournaments. Stu Steal #02 >From: Darroch Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: George Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, britdisc@near.me.uk >Subject: Re: [BD] Tour 2 view point of issues raised by Jon Palmer >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:13:50 +0100 (BST) > >Hi George, > >I agree that smaller teams do find it difficult to commit >early, but I think that Hannah's point was that the bigger >teams could and should follow Leed's example and pay their >club earlier, allowing for early payment at tournaments. > >Tour 1 in Bristol shows that one way to get more pitch time >available is to start earlier. Our team managed to survive >an early Sunday start and win their 8am game. I hope that >there are other teams currently in the B Tour that would >also choose to get up early if it meant better length >games. > >There have been a few suggestion of B Tour teams being >ripped off (or at least getting fewer minutes for their >entry fee). While it might please some B Tour teams to get >better value for money, I don't want a discount for less >playing time. Instead I'd would prefer to get longer games >that would give us useful insight into the effort and >commitment required to survive in the A Tour. > >Possum >UTB #3 > >p.s. The spelling, grammar and views in this email are >solely my own and don't neccessarily reflect those of my >team mates. > > > I don't see how this will solve the problem hannah. This > > may be all well and > > good for the larger teams. It will increase, slightly, > > the number of teams > > signing up early but there will always be small clubs who > > want to enter Tour > > who cannot commit early. The problem arises due to the > > open entry to Tour. > > As I can't see this being abolished there will always be > > the danger of > > over-subscription for an event which will cause problems > > with pitch time. > > I do think that its unacceptable that Tour A gets so much > > more pitch time > > than anyone else for the same price. Someone questioned > > earlier why there > > isn't a standard game length in the UK. The question > > wasn't answered but > > it'd be interesting to hear peoples points of view on it. > >Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >__________________________________________________ >BritDisc mailing list >BritDisc@near.me.uk >http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list BritDisc@near.me.uk http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list BritDisc@near.me.uk http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp
