Well put! I'd also like to make a suggestion of promoting the sport in schools 
etc, more investment for coaching workshops . How about an extra "Ultimatum" 
magazine during the year. How about free physio at the venue too. Price rises 
above inflation is GREED!
 
Most of all I'd like to see some investment into a proper promotional video 
that can be put on a DVD and sent out to schools etc that is FREE! and can be 
copied a distributed by anyone. I've not seen anything available and if there 
is a DVD out there then it has been poorly promoted.  I'm sure the "Voice of 
Ultimate" Mr Tom Styles would be keen to do this if the funding were available.
 
I know that every time I go to my village green for chuck about I am swamped by 
scores of kids ranging from 4 to 13 yrs that are so enthusiastic and amazed and 
beg me to come to their school. Some of them even come knocking on my door 
asking when next I'm going go to the village green. Now if that is not an 
incentive to promote the sport . . .  Zulu 88 BAF



> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:53:06 +0000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [BD] Fw: Tour 0 - The 
> Price> > Um...£180?> > The trend is continuing to get a bit out of control. 
> The last> official outdoor event of 2006 was Nationals which set a precedent 
> of> charging a rather large £180 team fee.> > Now sure enough, first event of 
> 2007 and we see £180 a team opening> the door for all other TDs to charge the 
> same or more. These are> tournaments that most teams have to attend if they 
> want to play the> tour (which is most). Probably up to 40-50 teams will go to 
> this.> > First some history...> Tour 1 2002 (Clifton) - £145> Tour 1 2003 
> (Clifton) - £145> Nationals 2003 (in London!) - £150> Tour 1 2004 (Clifton) - 
> £150> Tour 1 2005 (Clifton) - £150> Mixed Tour 1 2005 (Clifton) - £150> 
> Nationals 2006 - £180> Tour 0 (Clifton) - £180> Each of these years Clifton 
> and/or Nationals have been the most> expensive events.> > How about some 
> math...> Being pessimistic assuming only 40 teams...£180 * 40 = £7200> > For 
> this total price the players get pitches, camping (nationals> didn't even 
> have this without paying extra last year), party and> prizes. Food is extra.> 
> > The venue will charge a set fee for the lined pitches and the camping> 
> spaces if provided. The schedule will be written by the DoC. Any> estimates? 
> Highfields in Nottingham is around £1500...> > I'm just looking at the amount 
> of work required and seeing the pricing> going up and up. It was asked at the 
> UKUA conference for more> visibility (again) on tournament bids and the 
> response was something> to the tune of..."it was felt that TD's should not be 
> forced to> disclose their financial information (whether personal or for a 
> club)> to the ultimate community". It's an interesting but not unexpected> 
> comment given the two most potentially profited from events last year> were 
> run by UKUA committee members.> > So if a venue costs £3000. Maybe London or 
> something. A TD might pay> £200 on prizes. So there's £4000 left over. If 
> you've got a good> job...a real good job you would work full-time for two 
> full months> (aprox 320 hours) to make this kind of money.> > What would be 
> great is considering this is a EUC GB team year is to> see the money from 
> UKUA Tour events go towards helping these teams (or> at least the Juniors) 
> practice and attend the European event in> Southampton and World event next 
> year in Vancouver (which is going to> cost the attendees a bundle). Better 
> than going into the pockets of a> few people lucky enough to have a hold on a 
> good venue.> > In addition/closing...at the conference that it was suggested 
> we> devise a plan to keep tournament prices down but they could not think> of 
> an effective one, bar the> teams paying the ukua and the ukua paying for the 
> pitches, which might> raise some tax issues.> > If the trend continues, given 
> the now 9 UKUA events a year with a> minimum profit of around £4000 we're 
> talking £36000 of potential> earning that could go into developing the sport, 
> funding national> squads, juniors programs that instead just disappears at 
> the moment.> > Bring back the days of Kev Lowe's £80 charity tournament which 
> I'd> have happily paid £180 for.> > Steve> > > > > > > On 14/02/07, Adam 
> Batchelor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > TOUR ONE BRISTOL> > Ultimate 
> Tournament> > 30th of March and the 1st of April> >> > 
> www.bristoltours.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk> >> > Dear All> >> > You are invited to 
> Bristol Tour Zero, the official UKU Tour qualifying event, which will be held 
> at Clifton College Sports Ground, Abbots Leigh, Bristol on the weekend of the 
> 30th of March and the 1st of April. The deadline for all entrants is 16th of 
> March> >> > THIS TOURNAMENT SEEDS ALL TEAMS, OTHER THAN THE TOP 4 FROM LAST 
> YEARS NATIONALS, FOR TOUR1, BOTH A & B TOURS. IE 1ST AT TOUR 0 IS SEEDED 5TH 
> AT THE A TOUR AND 13TH AT TOUR 0 IS SEEDED 1ST IN THE BTOUR.> >> > ENTRY FEE 
> - £140 for all student teams and £180 for all other teams.> >> > A separate 
> Women's division may be run alongside dependant on the entry levels.> >> > 
> CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available (free of charge) with 24hr toilet 
> facilities open to all. Changing rooms with hot showers will be readily 
> accessible. A list of local B&B / Guest Houses is attached.> >> > The 
> campsite will be accessible from Friday evening, and the sports ground is 
> keeping their bar open until around 2300hrs for anyone wishing to have a few 
> beers before bed.> >> > GRUB/PARTY - A cheap food option of pasta and other 
> quick stuff is available all day Saturday and Sunday as well as Saturday 
> evening, followed by a party and a bar with a late licence until 1am.> >> > 
> DIRECTIONS FOR THE SPORTS GROUND - From North, South, East or West: M5 - exit 
> at Jct 19. Follow A369 towards Bristol for approximately 4 miles on a windy 
> road through small villages until you see a narrow turning on the right hand 
> side signed posted for Clifton Sports Ground. (Watch out as this turning can 
> creep up on you - if you get to the traffic lights, you have gone too far! - 
> this does not include the pedestrian crossing lights at the George Inn at 
> Abbots Leigh Village).> >> > CAMPSITE - Instead of turning into the sports 
> grounds you continue up to the traffic lights and turn right. 350 yards on 
> the right hand side you will see a gate. This is the entrance to the camping 
> area. Please pitch your tents in the bottom right hand side of the field.> >> 
> > Matt & Adam> > 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> > Tour Zero> >> > E-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mobile: 07966 
> 577 563> > BRISTOL TOURS> > Ultimate Tournament> >> > Please send all entry 
> forms to> >> > Mathew Edwards> > 7 Sloan Street> > St George> > Bristol> > 
> BS5 7AD> >> > I ENCLOSE MY CHEQUE FOR £.............> >> > Please insert a 
> cheque with the following written on the reverse> > Team name, team contact 
> phone number and email address> > Make payable to Mathew Edwards. Any 
> comments you can supply on seeding position would be helpful.> >> > 
> NAME:...............................> >> > 
> TEAM:...............................> >> > 
> ADDRESS:.............................> >> > 
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>  > POSTCODE:.............> >> > TEL:.................MOBILE:...........> >> > 
> E-MAIL ADDRESS: ............................> >> > Team Seeding Details> >> > 
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