See, I'm not sure that's relevant, Steve. If I pay £15-20 for a great tournament, I don't care whether the TD is making £100 or £5000 profit. It's all about value for the players as far as I'm concerned. Does anyone feel that they're not getting value for their entry fees? Apart from some additional shelter from the wrath of the weather gods at York last year, I can't think of a complaint I'd have.
Whether there's a better way of distributing some of the profit for the good of the game is a worthwhile discussion to have, as perhaps is whether there's a more efficient way of running the whole tournament process. I certainly think that from my limited experience of going to tournaments, there are some significant opportunities for generating revenue for both the TD and UKUA being missed, and just nudging up tour entry fees isn't an answer. But I don't think that making TDs lay out their costs to the Ultimate community at large to justify price rises is necessarily going to provide anyone - TDs or players - with the satisfaction they're after. Jazz is right, we'd all pay a bit more if we had to - there isn't much alternative anyway! Let's look at how we can take Tour events to the next level, though, in order to provide an improvement for everyone - players, suppliers, UKUA, the lot. No-one wants to pay more for no improvement, equally no-one wants things to stagnate. As a linked thought, does the UKUA provide any kind of guidance based on their experience of running tournaments that can be shared with potential bidders? The best motivation for TDs to improve their bids is to make them think how to make theirs better than the other bidders' - if there isn't another bidder, then that kicker isn't there. My experience of running tournaments is limited to an annual five-a-side football tourny and my first Ultimate event last year (a small beach tournament in Bournemouth, Le Tournoi, which if I can have a quick plug will be running again later this year!), so I realise that I may be missing a trick here. Happy to be corrected if I've got anything fundamentally wrong! Pablo 3 Flaming Galahs On 2/15/07, Steven Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think that anyone is begrudging TD's from making a profit, but more that the price of a tour event has gone up 30 pounds per team in a year and there has been no indication of which part of the event has also gone up in price. If the fields have gone up in price or other things involved with the tournament have increased then i think that everyone would be quite happy to pay the money. I think that people need some reassurance that their extra money has gone somewhere useful and not just put an extra 1200 pounds (30 x 40 teams) in the TD's pocket. Steve >From: Jazz Frisbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BD] Fw: Tour 0 - The Price >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:25:32 +0000 (GMT) > >It must be that time of year again when we have our annual tournament >pricing debate. > >Many people may object, but have any teams ever pulled out or not entered a >tour event because of the price? > >If not then the market rate (I think it's called the equilibrium price - >any economists out there?) has not been reached and tournament directors >can quite happily increase their charges secure in the knowledge that their >customers (ultimate teams) will still buy their product. I reckon that you >would probably still fill £300+ open tour events. > >Sadly this would still not be enough to price those damned hippies out of >the game! ;-) > >Jazz > > > > >--------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out >more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. >__________________________________________________ >BritDisc mailing list >[email protected] >http://fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp
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