I agree that the antenna seems too long. When shortening an antenna, it's a good idea to take off small amounts (25mm or so) at a time. Also, the suggestion to fold the ends of the antenna back rather than cut them off is a good one.

Also, it's always good to have independent confirmation before making changes. That way you don't have to go out in a snowstorm to shorten an antenna and then find yourself going out again a few minutes later to make it even shorter and then, after several snowy trips outside, figuring out that no matter how much you take off the ends, the antenna would still be too short. (I want to say that was during the 1982 November Sweepstakes, it was in another state, and I wasn't the one doing the shortening.)

On 5/9/2017 10:11 AM, NIzar Mullani via BVARC wrote:

Gayle,

The Alpha Delta wire dipoles are cut for the CW portion of the bands. This way, you can cut them shorter to work on the SSB portion of the band.

Nizar

*From:*BVARC [mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org] *On Behalf Of *Gayle Dotts via BVARC
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 9, 2017 8:02 AM
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*Cc:* Gayle Dotts
*Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Inverted V dipole orientation

Put an SWR meter to the 10 meter Alpha Delta DX-EE, results:

Set to CW

28.488   2.9

28.360   3.0

28.300   3.1

the dipole is at 8 feet each side.

Any Advise?

Gayle

KF5LVZ

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Gayle Dotts <gayle.do...@gmail.com <mailto:gayle.do...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Thank you guys.  I orientated the wires so that I could with
    little effort switch directions to accommodate. The degree of
    angle off straight up and down I can play with. Elevation on the
    mast in an inverted V is around 35 feet.

    Gayle

    KF5LVZ

    PS:  I will say this from a 10M rotatable MFJ 1980 Moxon type
    antenna to now a new Alpha Delta DX EE........

    For observations on the 20M, 40M and 80M........traffic feels like
    it has increased 70% on all bands with stations I had not heard
    before or the ability to hear before. The 10M I will have to
    observe using the 10M nets coming up to comment on.

    On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan Guthrie via BVARC
    <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote:

        As far as the North/South vs East/West question goes, if you
        know where you want your signal to go, then you should
        absolutely orient your dipole broadside to that direction.  If
        you don't know where you want your signal to go, or don't yet
        care, then do what people typically do and put it up in
        whichever direction is most convenient. If you've got the
        money, the time, and the space, you can always set up two of
        them at right angles to each other and switch between them,
        depending on which one brings in the louder signal.

        As far as making it straight goes (I think that's what you're
        asking, if it's not, then please correct me) then as long as
        the legs aren't too close together it won't have a huge effect
        on the radiation pattern.  A right angle is probably not "too
        close".  I don't believe that the radiation will be
        substantially less efficient, but you may get the energy
        directed in a peculiar direction.  The thing is, unless you
        know what you're trying to achieve, the thing to do is to put
        something up and see what you get.  If you find that you
        communicate really well to nowhere you want to talk to, then
        consider making changes or even trying your hand at some
        modelling to see what it's really doing.

        The thing to understand is that all antennas interact with the
        environment that they're in.  That means that unless it's well
        isolated from nearly everything your signal will go off in
        weird directions because it's near the metal in your house or
        a shed or a fence or whatever.  Trying to anticipate that is
        of limited use, and probably not worth the effort until you
        know what you're trying to do.



        On 5/7/2017 8:18 PM, Gayle Dotts via BVARC wrote:

            Setting up a inverted V multiband dipole 30 feet in the
            air and was wondering should I orient the wires to begin
            with so broadside to the dipole is North and South  or
            should I orient it for East and West broadside?  I do know
            that broadside is where most of my signals will come
            from...or does it really matter??  Also usually one sets
            up dipoles wires so the combined asmith is close to 180
            degrees.  Can I do a 90 degree combined asmith......  or
            will that decrease my signals?

            Thank you for your thoughts guys, I appreciate it!

            Gayle Dotts

            KF5LVZ

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