Rick wrote:
> At 1/22/2007 01:34 AM, you wrote:
>> At 20:40 2007-01-21, Rick wrote:
>>> At 1/21/2007 05:19 PM, you wrote:
>>>> At 12:27 2007-01-21, navid yaghoobi wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> if you want to work with linux its beter to work woth C
>>>>
>>>> There is NO excuse for writing ANYTHING in C these days.......none!
>>>
>>> I disagree. While it is good to form an opinion and have a favorite
>>> language, that does not mean other languages are useless.
>>
>> C is, and has been useless ever since C++ became standardized. and
>> I'll say it again, There is NO point in writing anything in C these
>> days. C++ is simply a better language, period
>>
>>> C is, in fact, a very good language. It is often used for writing
>>> device drivers, for example. Sure, one could also use C++, but C is a
>>> perfectly acceptable choice.
>>>
>>> Victor. Have you opinion but don't degrade the choices of others. It
>>> isn't necessary.
>>
>> I wasn't degrading anyone, and it's NOT an opinion, it's fact
>
> No, Victor, your statement is NOT fact. Saying "There is NO excuse for
> writing ANYTHING in C these days.......none!" is simply not true. Sure,
> C++ may be a superior language to C but, if one does not know how to
> program C++ yet they do know how to write code in C, then C is a
> perfectly acceptable choice.
> This forum is supposed to help those of us who do not currently know C++
> and would like to learn. Statements/attitudes like yours make that
> process more difficult.
>
>>> ~Rick
Rick, ignore Victor's rants. But did you know you can use C++ as a
better C? (Nitpickers: I know it is a terrible association as they are
two distinct languages.) For instance, in C, you can't do:
int MyFunction(char SomeValue)
{
}
int MyFunction(char *SomeValue)
{
}
Because both functions have the same name. That's called function
overloading and it is allowed by a C++ compiler. You don't have to use
classes/templates to use C++. Little things like that make C++ a better
language.
Also, I am of the strong _personal opinion_ that the STL components of
the C++ Standard are wrong (not everyone holds my view). The Standard
should simply define how code is compiled and leave predefined
functions, classes, and templates such as the STL out of it. And guess
what? You don't have to use STL to use C++ either. If STL is confusing
for you, then don't use it. You can always roll your own, although you
might be ridiculed by your peers for doing so (reinventing the wheel has
that tendency).
However, before rolling your own string class, I recommend looking at
BString:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/c-prog/files/Books/
(Safe C++ Design Principles)
Rick, you seem to have similar feelings about STL as I do (general
confusion being one of those many feelings). BString and kin and other
ideas may be exactly what you are looking for. I should have done this
a LONG time ago and made the book available to c-prog members, but
hopefully this "change of heart" repairs some of the past damage.
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