Sorry to be slow getting back - we've had a thirty hour power outage following a storm that ripped off roofs and uprooted trees. A little unusual here in Spain. @everybody and nobody, I dislike Eclipse and Netbeans because 1. (without redoing the sums) I don't understand why an editor should use in excess of 250MB runtime (including java) - even Photoshop uses less than that, and it works. 2. I hate Java. Why is it there? Leave it in AI toasters where it belongs. And stop reinventing uses for it. (java servlets and sh*t like that) 3. They both stopped my PC in its tracks (brand new out the box fully loaded) although NetBeans was a little better. 4. One didn't have drag and drop and the other didn't have something else really basic that I don't remember.
Smultron I tried. It's okay for HTML but I don't think it really cuts it with PHP. Editor/IDE - I don't really care - it doesn't really matter for PHP. TextMate I tried, but please tell me I'm being dumb and you can show line numbers without saving them in the file. Espresso is good but unstable. I haven't tried TextWrangler yet, but I will. I used Emacs as my main editor/IDE for about 12 years. Maybe I'll give it a go again. It has the advantage that it can be used for system level files aswell. Or maybe I'll brush off my C++ skills (blech) and write one in Cocoa or even see if it can be done in Python. Anyway, I'll write a more considered reply a little later when I've caught up with everything else. On Jan 25, 7:04 pm, rogwei <rog...@comcast.net> wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something about Eclipse, but when I create a project > for CakePHP (which seems to be a requirement in this discussion) I get > inordinate bloat in the project explorer. Is there a workaround for > this? How do people tolerate such a mess, given that one of the basic > things you use an IDE for is project management? I would love to know, > because otherwise, I think Eclipse is a fairly attractive alternative > for the other noted features. > > On Jan 25, 7:34 am, rgreenphotodesign <rgr...@rgreenphotography.com> > wrote: > > > Eclipse is nice because it's the same on all OS. If you use Windows at > > work and Mac at home, it still works pretty much the same. That and > > I've been using it since version 1 and I'm kind of used to it. > > > I've tried CODA and it's pretty cool. I like the CSS editior which is > > something most pure IDEs lack and well as the terminal window options. > > I'm still trying to decide if it's worth the 100 or if I'm OK using > > Eclipse and CSS editors that came with Adobe Dreamweaver, since I > > already own it as a part of the suite I use. > > > On Jan 25, 7:45 am, Janoma <jan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I'd go for Smultron, though I don't think the newest versions work on > > > non-intel macs. > > > > On Jan 23, 11:01 am, leo <ponton....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Having spent months trying to find an adequate editor for Windows, I > > > > eventually settled on Komodo. Now I'm working on a Mac and Komodo is > > > > available, but version 5 is so slow it's unusable. I reverted to v4, > > > > but while it is a little quicker it is also a little unstable. It is > > > > still slow enough to be irritating - 2 seconds to switch tabs; > > > > sometimes it doesn't load the plugins, sometimes it will not maximise > > > > properly. > > > > > Okay, I'm not using a cutting edge Intel Mac, I'm on a G4 / Leopard, > > > > but it's still a reasonably powerful machine (it'll run Photoshop and > > > > Illustrator simultaneously without grinding to a halt). > > > > > Can anybody suggest a non-java based editor (I do not like Eclipse or > > > > NetBeans or anything Java come to that)? I've tried Xcode, but it > > > > seems really clunky and not at all geared to PHP. It needs to have > > > > project handling like Komodo, code intelligence and above all, it must > > > > be free. > > > > > Maybe a Macport of Bluefish - anybody tried that? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---