All CCIE R&S candidates.  I recently attempted the R&S v4 lab.  It was my first 
attempt and yes I didn't pass.  However, I believe the lab to be very passable. 
 I did not seem limited on time, just limited on my experience with the obscure 
rarely used commands and the ability to quickly find them in the docs.  Also to 
be completely honest, I needed to improve my speed on the basic configurations 
and attention to detail to give me more time for the real CCIE stuff.  The 
troubleshooting section seemed very straight forward and didn't seem 
constrained on time.   I believe a well prepared CCIE candidate should not have 
a problem with the troubleshooting section.  Especially, someone who's been 
working and troubleshooting routing problems for a couple of years.  Bottom 
line don't get discouraged.  My plan for my second attempt is to get more 300 
hours of more lab time and more experience finding stuff in the docs; then give 
it another attempt.




---- Carlos Valero <[email protected]> wrote: 

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But you really think that the new exam can be passed?
 
I know you are goint to say "yes"
 
But where is the proof?
 
Who has passed yet?  No one I think!
 
I guess that's a proof that Cisco went way over the top!
 
Reducing the time available for the exam to only 6 hours
and then giving you just a few minutes to solve all those 
"imaginary" Troubleshooting problems, makes it more than discouraging!
 


--- On Tue, 12/29/09, Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R&S or SP which would be better
To: "Mustafa Yadav" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], "sebastan bach" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 8:00 AM


Guys,

You have to go with where your passion is, not what is the easier road : )  If 
you are working in an SP environment or you find those technologies to be your 
passion than do SP.  If you are more into R&S in an enterprise network then go 
R&S.  R&S will give you more updated technologies and what I believe to be a 
broader scope of technology but that it not to say that it is "better" or 
"worse" than any other track.  My advice stands -- Follow your passion and if 
you work hard things will take care of themselves.


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Mustafa Yadav <[email protected]> wrote:

I am confused as well.Since new RS exam is getting harder to pass.But
SP is still passable .It seems SP is a little bitr easier than SP and
topics in SP much more popular.

On the other hand finding docs,labs in RS track is easier than everything.






On 12/29/09, sebastan bach <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is my first post in this mailing list.
>
> I already have ccie security cert with me I am planning for a dual but not
> sure. I would require advise from people in this forum. I am little confused
> about which track to pursue CCIE R&S or SP.The confusion is basically
> because of MPLS being added to R&S track. and since SP track covers all
> routing, advance routing and plus mpls in complete detail and there is
> little investment required  as we can do all labs in dynamips as of now.. but
> not sure if in my journey suddenly cisco changes the lab equipment to
> gsr/asr routers.
>
> With R&S i would require a good investment with regards to switches. I am
> really not sure and i am really confused.
>
> Guys please send out ur opinions it would surely help me a lot.
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastan
>
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