Nothing is impossible, as long as you have passion on doing it. Nothing is hard 
when you love what you are doing, i know it's tiring but have fun with it :-)

I always think my college days before when I was taking my Electrical and 
Electronics Engineering degree was way harder than this, I was doing three 
dimensional calculus and laplas transformation for my signals and systems 
course. ;-)

This couldn't be harder than that.

Antonio Dee
CCIE #25609
CCNP,CCDP,CCSP,MCSE,LCP,CNA
"Patience is the virtue of success"




> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:24:48 -0500
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R&S or SP which would be better
> 
> I just look at all this and laugh (meaning all the "the test is to 
> hard/not passable crap").  The analogy would be, "no one has ever 
> climbed Mt. Everest to the summit, ergo it can't be done."  Then the 
> corollary to that would be, "well that guy climbed Everest, ergo anyone 
> can do it even me."
> 
> Buy a can of compressed air, blow out the sand and drive on! :-D
> 
> 
> 
> marc abel wrote:
> > I don't think Joe's response was directed at you Eric.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Eric Holder <[email protected]> wrote:
> >   
> >> Wow Joe.......I don't believe I was complaining or crying.  I was just 
> >> sharing my recent experience with v4 lab and believe the lab exam to be 
> >> fair and passable as I stated in my post.  As a senior technical 
> >> instructor for IPExpert shouldn't you be encouraging candidates?
> >>
> >>
> >> ---- Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> =============
> >> People have passed.  Many many people have said the lab is definitely
> >> passable. Seriously guys -- This is what Cisco wants -- to weed out all the
> >> people that cry and complain that oh it's too hard.  Great, weed out 
> >> another
> >> candidate who doesn't have the guts or the grit to get to the top.  Man up!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Eric Holder <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> All CCIE R&S candidates.  I recently attempted the R&S v4 lab.  It was my
> >>> first attempt and yes I didn't pass.  However, I believe the lab to be 
> >>> very
> >>> passable.  I did not seem limited on time, just limited on my experience
> >>> with the obscure rarely used commands and the ability to quickly find them
> >>> in the docs.  Also to be completely honest, I needed to improve my speed 
> >>> on
> >>> the basic configurations and attention to detail to give me more time for
> >>> the real CCIE stuff.  The troubleshooting section seemed very straight
> >>> forward and didn't seem constrained on time.   I believe a well prepared
> >>> CCIE candidate should not have a problem with the troubleshooting section.
> >>>  Especially, someone who's been working and troubleshooting routing 
> >>> problems
> >>> for a couple of years.  Bottom line don't get discouraged.  My plan for my
> >>> second attempt is to get more 300 hours of more lab time and more 
> >>> experience
> >>> finding stuff in the docs; then give it another attempt.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---- Carlos Valero <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> =============
> >>> But you really think that the new exam can be passed?
> >>>
> >>> I know you are goint to say "yes"
> >>>
> >>> But where is the proof?
> >>>
> >>> Who has passed yet?  No one I think!
> >>>
> >>> I guess that's a proof that Cisco went way over the top!
> >>>
> >>> Reducing the time available for the exam to only 6 hours
> >>> and then giving you just a few minutes to solve all those
> >>> "imaginary" Troubleshooting problems, makes it more than discouraging!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R&S or SP which would be better
> >>> To: "Mustafa Yadav" <[email protected]>
> >>> Cc: [email protected], "sebastan bach" <[email protected]>
> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 8:00 AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Guys,
> >>>
> >>> You have to go with where your passion is, not what is the easier road : )
> >>> If you are working in an SP environment or you find those technologies to 
> >>> be
> >>> your passion than do SP.  If you are more into R&S in an enterprise 
> >>> network
> >>> then go R&S.  R&S will give you more updated technologies and what I 
> >>> believe
> >>> to be a broader scope of technology but that it not to say that it is
> >>> "better" or "worse" than any other track.  My advice stands -- Follow your
> >>> passion and if you work hard things will take care of themselves.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Mustafa Yadav <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am confused as well.Since new RS exam is getting harder to pass.But
> >>> SP is still passable .It seems SP is a little bitr easier than SP and
> >>> topics in SP much more popular.
> >>>
> >>> On the other hand finding docs,labs in RS track is easier than everything.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/29/09, sebastan bach <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is my first post in this mailing list.
> >>>>
> >>>> I already have ccie security cert with me I am planning for a dual but
> >>>>         
> >>> not
> >>>       
> >>>> sure. I would require advise from people in this forum. I am little
> >>>>         
> >>> confused
> >>>       
> >>>> about which track to pursue CCIE R&S or SP.The confusion is basically
> >>>> because of MPLS being added to R&S track. and since SP track covers all
> >>>> routing, advance routing and plus mpls in complete detail and there is
> >>>> little investment required  as we can do all labs in dynamips as of now..
> >>>>         
> >>> but
> >>>       
> >>>> not sure if in my journey suddenly cisco changes the lab equipment to
> >>>> gsr/asr routers.
> >>>>
> >>>> With R&S i would require a good investment with regards to switches. I am
> >>>> really not sure and i am really confused.
> >>>>
> >>>> Guys please send out ur opinions it would surely help me a lot.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Sebastan
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S)
> >>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >>> Mailto: [email protected]
> >>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
> >>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
> >>>
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> >>> (R&S,
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> >>> Service
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>>       
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S)
> >> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >> Mailto: [email protected]
> >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
> >> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
> >>
> >> IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (R&S,
> >> Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & 
> >> Service
> >> Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United
> >> States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online communities 
> >> at
> >> www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com
> >>
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> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>
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