People have passed.  Many many people have said the lab is definitely
passable. Seriously guys -- This is what Cisco wants -- to weed out all the
people that cry and complain that oh it's too hard.  Great, weed out another
candidate who doesn't have the guts or the grit to get to the top.  Man up!

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Eric Holder <[email protected]> wrote:

> All CCIE R&S candidates.  I recently attempted the R&S v4 lab.  It was my
> first attempt and yes I didn't pass.  However, I believe the lab to be very
> passable.  I did not seem limited on time, just limited on my experience
> with the obscure rarely used commands and the ability to quickly find them
> in the docs.  Also to be completely honest, I needed to improve my speed on
> the basic configurations and attention to detail to give me more time for
> the real CCIE stuff.  The troubleshooting section seemed very straight
> forward and didn't seem constrained on time.   I believe a well prepared
> CCIE candidate should not have a problem with the troubleshooting section.
>  Especially, someone who's been working and troubleshooting routing problems
> for a couple of years.  Bottom line don't get discouraged.  My plan for my
> second attempt is to get more 300 hours of more lab time and more experience
> finding stuff in the docs; then give it another attempt.
>
>
>
>
> ---- Carlos Valero <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> =============
> But you really think that the new exam can be passed?
>
> I know you are goint to say "yes"
>
> But where is the proof?
>
> Who has passed yet?  No one I think!
>
> I guess that's a proof that Cisco went way over the top!
>
> Reducing the time available for the exam to only 6 hours
> and then giving you just a few minutes to solve all those
> "imaginary" Troubleshooting problems, makes it more than discouraging!
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R&S or SP which would be better
> To: "Mustafa Yadav" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], "sebastan bach" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 8:00 AM
>
>
> Guys,
>
> You have to go with where your passion is, not what is the easier road : )
> If you are working in an SP environment or you find those technologies to be
> your passion than do SP.  If you are more into R&S in an enterprise network
> then go R&S.  R&S will give you more updated technologies and what I believe
> to be a broader scope of technology but that it not to say that it is
> "better" or "worse" than any other track.  My advice stands -- Follow your
> passion and if you work hard things will take care of themselves.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Mustafa Yadav <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I am confused as well.Since new RS exam is getting harder to pass.But
> SP is still passable .It seems SP is a little bitr easier than SP and
> topics in SP much more popular.
>
> On the other hand finding docs,labs in RS track is easier than everything.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/29/09, sebastan bach <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is my first post in this mailing list.
> >
> > I already have ccie security cert with me I am planning for a dual but
> not
> > sure. I would require advise from people in this forum. I am little
> confused
> > about which track to pursue CCIE R&S or SP.The confusion is basically
> > because of MPLS being added to R&S track. and since SP track covers all
> > routing, advance routing and plus mpls in complete detail and there is
> > little investment required  as we can do all labs in dynamips as of now..
> but
> > not sure if in my journey suddenly cisco changes the lab equipment to
> > gsr/asr routers.
> >
> > With R&S i would require a good investment with regards to switches. I am
> > really not sure and i am really confused.
> >
> > Guys please send out ur opinions it would surely help me a lot.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Sebastan
> >
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