Hey Eric, Yes indeed my comments were not directed at you Eric. Sorry if you perceived it that way. I was just making a comment about how things should be viewed in general in my opinion. In fact, your email to the list was encouraging to me because you HAVE the right attitude. You made that apparent when you said that it was passable and that you needed to work on speed. Sometimes things get lost in translation. Again, nothing was aimed at you Eric and in fact I think you have a great attitude : )
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:30 AM, sebastan bach <[email protected]>wrote: > Guys thanks a ton for your views on the same. > > Actually I have already cleared ccie security lab and was planning for a > another one. My interest lies in the R&S as i am currently working in the > enterprise market. but since they already have L3 vpns and all in r&s there > is hardly much left in SP track like TE & L2 vpns. I mean passing > probability is more with SP and less time as they will be hardware changes > announced for it. > > Guys does anybody have any idea about when the hardware changes for CCIE SP > would be announced. > > Again thanks a lot for your views and opinions. > > Regards > > Sebastan > > > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:31 AM, marc abel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't think Joe's response was directed at you Eric. >> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Eric Holder <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Wow Joe.......I don't believe I was complaining or crying. I was just >> sharing my recent experience with v4 lab and believe the lab exam to be fair >> and passable as I stated in my post. As a senior technical instructor for >> IPExpert shouldn't you be encouraging candidates? >> > >> > >> > ---- Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > ============= >> > People have passed. Many many people have said the lab is definitely >> > passable. Seriously guys -- This is what Cisco wants -- to weed out all >> the >> > people that cry and complain that oh it's too hard. Great, weed out >> another >> > candidate who doesn't have the guts or the grit to get to the top. Man >> up! >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Eric Holder <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> All CCIE R&S candidates. I recently attempted the R&S v4 lab. It was >> my >> >> first attempt and yes I didn't pass. However, I believe the lab to be >> very >> >> passable. I did not seem limited on time, just limited on my >> experience >> >> with the obscure rarely used commands and the ability to quickly find >> them >> >> in the docs. Also to be completely honest, I needed to improve my >> speed on >> >> the basic configurations and attention to detail to give me more time >> for >> >> the real CCIE stuff. The troubleshooting section seemed very straight >> >> forward and didn't seem constrained on time. I believe a well >> prepared >> >> CCIE candidate should not have a problem with the troubleshooting >> section. >> >> Especially, someone who's been working and troubleshooting routing >> problems >> >> for a couple of years. Bottom line don't get discouraged. My plan for >> my >> >> second attempt is to get more 300 hours of more lab time and more >> experience >> >> finding stuff in the docs; then give it another attempt. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- Carlos Valero <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> ============= >> >> But you really think that the new exam can be passed? >> >> >> >> I know you are goint to say "yes" >> >> >> >> But where is the proof? >> >> >> >> Who has passed yet? No one I think! >> >> >> >> I guess that's a proof that Cisco went way over the top! >> >> >> >> Reducing the time available for the exam to only 6 hours >> >> and then giving you just a few minutes to solve all those >> >> "imaginary" Troubleshooting problems, makes it more than discouraging! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Joe Astorino <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R&S or SP which would be better >> >> To: "Mustafa Yadav" <[email protected]> >> >> Cc: [email protected], "sebastan bach" < >> [email protected]> >> >> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 8:00 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> Guys, >> >> >> >> You have to go with where your passion is, not what is the easier road >> : ) >> >> If you are working in an SP environment or you find those technologies >> to be >> >> your passion than do SP. If you are more into R&S in an enterprise >> network >> >> then go R&S. R&S will give you more updated technologies and what I >> believe >> >> to be a broader scope of technology but that it not to say that it is >> >> "better" or "worse" than any other track. My advice stands -- Follow >> your >> >> passion and if you work hard things will take care of themselves. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Mustafa Yadav < >> [email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I am confused as well.Since new RS exam is getting harder to pass.But >> >> SP is still passable .It seems SP is a little bitr easier than SP and >> >> topics in SP much more popular. >> >> >> >> On the other hand finding docs,labs in RS track is easier than >> everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/29/09, sebastan bach <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> >> > >> >> > This is my first post in this mailing list. >> >> > >> >> > I already have ccie security cert with me I am planning for a dual >> but >> >> not >> >> > sure. I would require advise from people in this forum. I am little >> >> confused >> >> > about which track to pursue CCIE R&S or SP.The confusion is basically >> >> > because of MPLS being added to R&S track. and since SP track covers >> all >> >> > routing, advance routing and plus mpls in complete detail and there >> is >> >> > little investment required as we can do all labs in dynamips as of >> now.. >> >> but >> >> > not sure if in my journey suddenly cisco changes the lab equipment to >> >> > gsr/asr routers. >> >> > >> >> > With R&S i would require a good investment with regards to switches. >> I am >> >> > really not sure and i am really confused. >> >> > >> >> > Guys please send out ur opinions it would surely help me a lot. >> >> > >> >> > Regards >> >> > >> >> > Sebastan >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please >> >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S) >> >> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert >> >> Mailto: [email protected] >> >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >> >> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat >> >> eFax: +1.810.454.0130 >> >> >> >> IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA >> (R&S, >> >> Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & >> Service >> >> Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United >> >> States, Europe and Australia. 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