Hello,
I hope somebody can help me with a F/R Basic question
By the way, I think I know F/R quite well, since I've gone over ALL F/R Lab 
scenarios in all 3 Work Books (Vols I, II & III)
And yet, a simple question that I saw somewhere caught me off guard.
The question was:
Configure F/R without "frame map" statements without using Inv. ARP.
I don't know, I guess I'm too tired to think.
But as fas a I know, when disable Inv. ARP, then all mapping have to be done 
manually, which means using frame map statements.
The alternative would be using frame-interface-dlci commandsbut that does 
require Inv. ARP, correct?
So configuring F/R without frame maps and without using Inv. ARP, seems to be a 
little bit odd.
What am I missing?
I'm sure the answer/solution is quite simple, but frankly I can't come up with 
it.
So I hope somebody helps.
Thanks!!

--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Tyson Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Tyson Scott <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?
To: "'Bojan Zivancevic'" <[email protected]>, "'Jay Taylor'" 
<[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 12:38 PM

I would be cautious to take that approach

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bojan Zivancevic
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 AM
To: Jay Taylor
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS
mandatory?

"I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be
enabling FRTS regardless!"

I'll subscribe to that. :)

Best Regards,

Bojan Zivancevic
Network Engineer
----

From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 16:00
To: Bojan Zivancevic
Cc: Nicolas MICHEL; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS
mandatory?

I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be
enabling FRTS regardless!

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Bojan Zivancevic
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yeah, connectivity works, that's for sure. That is why I asked the question
in the first place - you just can't be sure what FRTS brings.

But you have a point, since LFI is a part of QoS, guess in order for it to
work in this situation you need FRTS - for some reason behind the scene.

Best Regards,

Bojan Zivancevic
Network Engineer
----

From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:43
To: Bojan Zivancevic
Cc: Nicolas MICHEL;
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS
mandatory?

I agree though... basic connectivity works without FTRS enabled. I would
imagine that fragmenting and interleaving would not though.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Bojan Zivancevic
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Maybe exactly the fact it is in the QoS section means that FRTS has to be
enabled. :)

And btw it is mentioned in the document, but not explained why. Bah. Cisco
doc often sucks on my opinion.

Best Regards,

Bojan Zivancevic
Network Engineer
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From: Nicolas MICHEL
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:20
To: Jay Taylor
Cc: Bojan Zivancevic;
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS
mandatory?

Cant beleive MLPPPoFR is on the QOS section ... I wouldnt have find it
without your help Jay !


Thanks



2011/1/20 Jay Taylor <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
MLPPPoFR is a royal pain to find... Good stuff to know though! QoS config
guide - http://grab.by/8u9e

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/ios/qos/configuration/guide/mlppp_o
ver_fr_ps6441_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html


On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Bojan Zivancevic
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> wrote:

> One more dilemma on my side...
>
> When I try to enable multilink ppp over FR (virtual-templates blablabla) I
> always get the message
>
> %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on Link Virtual-Access1
> Bundle Virtual-Access3 :
> Frame Relay traffic shaping must be enabled
>
> I know I have read somewhere that this message should be ignored and that
> in fact MLPPP works without it over FR. But now I can't find it.
>
> And I did not find a sure way to check if it is working or not. Can
> somebody confirm FRTS must be applied or not, and it would be great if
> someone could explain how to verify if MLPPP is really working (with or
> without FRTS.)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bojan Zivancevic
> Network Engineer
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