Tyson, I would like to know more about your statement. Cisco explicitely asks 
us to use FRTS, and I did not find any other explanation why not to.

Why do you think it will cause trouble? Maybe we would lose connectivity? If 
that is the case we would surely see at once that the link is broken.

Any other thoughts behind your opinion?

Best Regards,

Bojan Zivancevic
Network Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyson Scott [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 18:38
To: Bojan Zivancevic; 'Jay Taylor'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?

I would be cautious to take that approach

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bojan Zivancevic
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 AM
To: Jay Taylor
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?

"I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be 
enabling FRTS regardless!"

I'll subscribe to that. :)

Best Regards,

Bojan Zivancevic
Network Engineer
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From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 16:00
To: Bojan Zivancevic
Cc: Nicolas MICHEL; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?

I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be 
enabling FRTS regardless!

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Bojan Zivancevic 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yeah, connectivity works, that's for sure. That is why I asked the question in 
the first place - you just can't be sure what FRTS brings.

But you have a point, since LFI is a part of QoS, guess in order for it to work 
in this situation you need FRTS - for some reason behind the scene.

Best Regards,

Bojan Zivancevic
Network Engineer
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From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:43
To: Bojan Zivancevic
Cc: Nicolas MICHEL;
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?

I agree though... basic connectivity works without FTRS enabled. I would 
imagine that fragmenting and interleaving would not though.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Bojan Zivancevic 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Maybe exactly the fact it is in the QoS section means that FRTS has to be 
enabled. :)

And btw it is mentioned in the document, but not explained why. Bah. Cisco doc 
often sucks on my opinion.

Best Regards,

Bojan Zivancevic
Network Engineer
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From: Nicolas MICHEL
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:20
To: Jay Taylor
Cc: Bojan Zivancevic;
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?

Cant beleive MLPPPoFR is on the QOS section ... I wouldnt have find it without 
your help Jay !


Thanks



2011/1/20 Jay Taylor <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
MLPPPoFR is a royal pain to find... Good stuff to know though! QoS config guide 
- http://grab.by/8u9e

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/ios/qos/configuration/guide/mlppp_o
ver_fr_ps6441_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html


On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Bojan Zivancevic 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> wrote:

> One more dilemma on my side...
>
> When I try to enable multilink ppp over FR (virtual-templates 
> blablabla) I always get the message
>
> %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on Link 
> Virtual-Access1 Bundle Virtual-Access3 :
> Frame Relay traffic shaping must be enabled
>
> I know I have read somewhere that this message should be ignored and 
> that in fact MLPPP works without it over FR. But now I can't find it.
>
> And I did not find a sure way to check if it is working or not. Can 
> somebody confirm FRTS must be applied or not, and it would be great if 
> someone could explain how to verify if MLPPP is really working (with 
> or without FRTS.)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bojan Zivancevic
> Network Engineer
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