Very interested to hear as well. 

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On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Bojan Zivancevic <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Tyson, I would like to know more about your statement. Cisco explicitely asks 
> us to use FRTS, and I did not find any other explanation why not to.
> 
> Why do you think it will cause trouble? Maybe we would lose connectivity? If 
> that is the case we would surely see at once that the link is broken.
> 
> Any other thoughts behind your opinion?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Bojan Zivancevic
> Network Engineer
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tyson Scott [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 18:38
> To: Bojan Zivancevic; 'Jay Taylor'
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> Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?
> 
> I would be cautious to take that approach
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bojan Zivancevic
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 AM
> To: Jay Taylor
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?
> 
> "I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be 
> enabling FRTS regardless!"
> 
> I'll subscribe to that. :)
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Bojan Zivancevic
> Network Engineer
> ----
> 
> From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 16:00
> To: Bojan Zivancevic
> Cc: Nicolas MICHEL; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?
> 
> I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be 
> enabling FRTS regardless!
> 
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Bojan Zivancevic 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Yeah, connectivity works, that's for sure. That is why I asked the question 
> in the first place - you just can't be sure what FRTS brings.
> 
> But you have a point, since LFI is a part of QoS, guess in order for it to 
> work in this situation you need FRTS - for some reason behind the scene.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Bojan Zivancevic
> Network Engineer
> ----
> 
> From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:43
> To: Bojan Zivancevic
> Cc: Nicolas MICHEL;
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> 
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?
> 
> I agree though... basic connectivity works without FTRS enabled. I would 
> imagine that fragmenting and interleaving would not though.
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Bojan Zivancevic 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Maybe exactly the fact it is in the QoS section means that FRTS has to be 
> enabled. :)
> 
> And btw it is mentioned in the document, but not explained why. Bah. Cisco 
> doc often sucks on my opinion.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Bojan Zivancevic
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> From: Nicolas MICHEL
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:20
> To: Jay Taylor
> Cc: Bojan Zivancevic;
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS mandatory?
> 
> Cant beleive MLPPPoFR is on the QOS section ... I wouldnt have find it 
> without your help Jay !
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/1/20 Jay Taylor <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> MLPPPoFR is a royal pain to find... Good stuff to know though! QoS config 
> guide - http://grab.by/8u9e
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/ios/qos/configuration/guide/mlppp_o
> ver_fr_ps6441_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Bojan Zivancevic 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> wrote:
> 
>> One more dilemma on my side...
>> 
>> When I try to enable multilink ppp over FR (virtual-templates 
>> blablabla) I always get the message
>> 
>> %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on Link 
>> Virtual-Access1 Bundle Virtual-Access3 :
>> Frame Relay traffic shaping must be enabled
>> 
>> I know I have read somewhere that this message should be ignored and 
>> that in fact MLPPP works without it over FR. But now I can't find it.
>> 
>> And I did not find a sure way to check if it is working or not. Can 
>> somebody confirm FRTS must be applied or not, and it would be great if 
>> someone could explain how to verify if MLPPP is really working (with 
>> or without FRTS.)
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Bojan Zivancevic
>> Network Engineer
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