Hi Tim,

Thank you for your and information and suggestions. There are two indepdent 
molecules in the asymmetric unit and one molecule does not have very good 
density, especially in the N-terminus. 

Do you think that I should remove the region in the refinement?

Best,

Sun

Tim Gruene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would agree that the difference is 
suspiciously high. I. Tickle and 
others have published analytical expressions for how to estimate the ratio 
between R and Rfree, just google for "tickle rfree" to find the 
references.

You easily achieve a large difference by adding too many waters which just 
model noise. There may be other reasons for which more knowledge about the 
structure is required. Do you have large unmodelled regions, like loops 
that do not show in the density map?

Tim


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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Sun Tang wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I refined a structure with Refmac in CCP4i and the R/Rfree is 0.215/0.277. 
> The difference between R and Rfree is too much even though I used 0.01 for 
> weighting term in the refinement (the default value is 0.3). The RMSD for 
> bond length and bond angle is 0.016 A and 1.7 degree.
>
> What may be wrong with the over-refined structure? What is the reason for 
> leading to an over-refined structure? How to avoid it?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Sun Tang
>
>
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