I've been reading these messages through the day... And without meaning to
offend anyone on the list... Is America really that bad??? You guys make it
sound like everyone's on the verge of boiling over into walking, raging,
vendetta stalking Charlie Bronson's!! :^)
One question that springs to mind is... Why don't you just walk/drive away?
If you ignore it, then maybe the other person will just get bored and get on
with their life. Do you have to thump/shoot someone to 'prove yourself a
man'? I was always brought up to believe that you were more of a man if you
could walk away from a fight. What's the point of all the aggression,
where does it get you? Shot? Beaten beyond recognition... DEAD?
It appears that tempers seem to be simmering wherever you turn nowadays...
And you'll get punched, or shot, for just looking the wrong way at the wrong
moment.
Buying a gun 'because everyone else has one' is bringing yourself down to
that level. Retaliating with fists is just the same.
Maybe it's because I don't live in a society where everyone you know has a
gun hidden in the house. Yeah, we have crime, yes we have Road Rage, but by
no means on any level that is comparative to what we seem to here about the
US. I can only assume that guns are so prolific in the US that there is
just about nothing you can do to remove them from the street.
I'm not trying to start a flame war, or offend anyway, so forgive me if I
have. I've just read a lot of comments on the mailing list today that seem
to be pro-aggression, and pro-guns. The more people that buy guns, the less
chance you ever have of getting rid of them from society, and what does this
teach our children? Mum and Dad have guns, so it's ok for me too... And as
a result, in the next generation, there won't be a family without a gun...
What a great future that leaves us and our children with!!
I guess it's difficult to comprehend when you don't live in the US. But
then if it's that bad, why not get out? The world is a big place, with a
lot of areas with less violence than the US?
Ok, I'll shut up now!! :^)
Why don't we get back to some nice peaceful coding!! hehehe Can't get
shot or beaten for that can we? :^)
Catch ya
Nick
on 17/7/01 1:39 PM, Judith Dinowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Okay, filks at noon ... Who's ready to fight?
>
> Uh, Gel, you're missing Adam's point: He does not advocate guns at all. He
> was talking strictly one on one, fist fighting. So the verse below doesn't
> fit at all.
>
> Besides, as Michael is telling me, any two-bit moron can pull a gun. To
> actually know that you're going to punch someone and get into a physical
> confrontation with them, to know that blood, teeth, guns and all this is
> going to be happening, you have to know that this is going to be happening.
> Guns don't allow you to think. Guns are just "pull a trigger" and someone is
> dead. A fist is part of your body that's going to connect with part of
> another person's body, and he may come back and hurt you. So you've got to
> think about it. You've got to think, "Is it worth the fight? Is it worth the
> physical confrontation? Is it worth saying 'Screw You' and that's it?" And
> if someone pushes you to the point that you think that it is worth the
> fight, do it by hand so you know what you're doing.
>
> Judith
>
>>
>> And if you can't fight with your fist...
>> And decide to go get a 'matic..
>> Then never fear that's cool as well.
>> Fists or Guns, it's all swell.
>>
>> Can you smell...
>> The testosterone tonii-iiight!
>> (My hormones in flight...)
>> To be a Man...
>> You have to be ready to fii-iiight!
>
>>
>>
>> -Gel
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Adam Phillip Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>
>> I don't know about the rest of the country, but here in Georgia we call
>> these "fighting words," and they are legal grounds for engaging in
> physical
>> combat. Fighting words, or even yelling at someone for that matter, are
>> considered assault under the law in Georgia. It is generally recognized
> in
>> the law that men should be able to save face by showing an aggressor the
>> business end of an iron fist.
>>
>> This is one of the very highest forms of civility in society, as it makes
> us
>> think twice about what we say and why, and promotes general courtesy
> between
>> civilized men. If a weaker man is bullied into fighting, then the bully
> is
>> turned out and shunned or put in his place. If the weaker man runs his
>> mouth to start things off, then he gets what he gets, and that's that.
>>
>> I wasn't there, but if Ben started it with his mouth and the other guy
> ended
>> it with his fists, knees, and feet -- one-on-one, and without a weapon
> other
>> than his body -- then that's that, pal. End of story, and learn your
> lesson
>> quick so there isn't a next time.
>>
>> You got _THAT_ right, pal. Anytime, anywhere someone has a beef with me
> for
>> any reason, I'm ready to hear him out and either clear up the
>> misunderstanding, apologize if I was wrong, or go to absolute out-and-out
>> WAR the old fashioned way. I'm so sick and #$*^%%^ tired of these whimpy
>> little "I'll have a half-caf decaf mocha with Ceylonese cinnamon and extra
>> foam" monthly facial dermabrasion and mud pack so-called "men" that I
> could
>> vomit! I say things plainly and honestly, I stand by my words, and I'm
> not
>> afraid of getting bloody in the process. Any other men out there live the
>> same way? If so, then you have my respect. Those of you who truly "get"
>> what I'm talking about will find such respect of value.
>>
>> On the O'Reilly Factor the other night, he mentioned that people are
> afraid
>> to take a moral stance anymore. Well I'm not. By God, I'm not. I stand
>> against the utter immorality of cowardice in men, and I challenge all men
> to
>> get tough with themselves and the other men around them.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>>
>>
>
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