conspiracy happens to be a very common and shady term our own
government and after all they find so many people guilty of it
incidentally :)
the concept that groups of ultra powerful folks control so much and
work behind the scenes seems quite logical... I mean does anyone
question anything anymore???
Of course sealing the borders would work to keep foreign terrorists
out... that isn't conspiracy theory.. it simply works... this wouldn't
have happened...
If you have travelled abroad, you certainly realize what a privilege it
is to travel through most countries... Here we open the freaking door
and let folks roll through...
as far as our rights... we fought Carnivore or DS1000 as they call
it... when this all happened our government went out to a bunch of ISPs
and dropped gear there... read the papers on that...
We fought to have strong crypto and right to conduct private
conversations... Now they want to eliminate all of that... because of
terrorism... eliminate that in the middle east, not here... We aren't
the enemy...
Not that isn't conspiracy... See frankly I don't care if Mickey Mouse
is behind all this bombing and terrorism stuff... I do know what Bin
Laden's family does... certainly you wouldn't let a terrorist watch
your kids, but we tell them where our bases are and give them
blueprints and aid and contracts.. Of course your won't let a rapist
live in your community, but you will let the brother of target # 1 hold
a chair at Harvard, own property here and continue to receive our
money... A bit disturbing?
Incidentally, I find New World Order kooks funny, UFO fans unlikely
folks and our leaders spineless cowards... I like my rights and don't
plan on kneeling down to any human.... If you don't protect your
rights, you better build good kneeling skills...
Some folks just fear the truth I suppose... Look up once in a while.
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-----Original Message-----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:36:58 -0700
Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
> I just can't answer the ignorance of conspiracy theories ...
>
> What is about people that they buy into this bullshit? Looking for
> demons
> around every corner.
>
> H.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:07 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
>
>
> The media isn't diverse...
>
> CNN has habitually propogated phony information.
>
> It seems unlikely Bin Laden is as bad as we believe as Americans -due
> to our media misinformation...
>
> Take for instance the huge amounts of money funneled to the Taliban
> last year for humanitarian aid... guess that is what they call
> payment
> for Opium these days... or perhaps a shell for the CIA to pay Mr.
> Laden
> his yearly retainer... Take it that Bin Laden's brother owns/holds a
> chair at Harvard... take that Bin Laden's family is the contractor
> for
> American bases in the Middle East...
>
> Doesn't any of that make you a bit uneasy if this guy is the anti-
> matter man our media portrays him as?
>
> The US government has this way of marking its operatives when their
> usefulness is over... It is frightening....
>
> We shouldn't be concerned with the sketchy pursuit of ghosts... this
> is
> our modern day witch hunt... My scary white American brethern are
> terrorizing American born citizens of Arab blood... nice truck drove
> through a mosque today in Cleveland..
>
> Listen, if terrorist are the problem... and I hear they are... why
> aren't we sending people from that part of the world home? Why
> aren't
> we coming up with new INS laws to make it harder to come here?? Why
> aren't there new laws for visitors and national ID cards for those
> folks? Heck we already have a darn SSN and drivers license, isn't
> that
> enough...??
>
> The story seems to me that the government is coming down on the
> citizen
> in the name of terrorism... all the pending legislation is anti-
> citizen..
>
> -paris
>
> [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> [connecting people, places and things]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:46:22 -0700
> Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
>
> > The coverage has been pretty "It's bin Laden's fault. We're
> innocent.
> > Let
> > me say that again. It's bin Laden's fault. etc." Things like the
> > racist
> > attacks across the country were largely ignored by major TV and
> > internet
> > media until someone died. I'm not sure how other media handled it.
> > Our
> > local TV news covered attacks on the first day they broadcasted
> > (which I
> > believe was Wednesday). But the national news didn't.
> >
> > Other news has been ignored. On Tuesday, I went to the CNN.com site
> > to read
> > the world news section to get information on what was going on
> around
> > the
> > world and the headlines were the same headlines as were on the main
> > page
> > and US page. Even in the Middle East section, there was no link to
> > the
> > story about Kabul being bombed that day. I searched the site to
> find
> > that
> > information. It was in the site. It simply wasn't linked in the
> > CNN.com>World>Middle East section.
> >
> > I think that's the diversity he's saying is lacking. Apparently,
> this
> > is
> > the only thing that has happened in the world for the last week.
> >
> > At 10:25 PM 9/17/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> > >I don't follow your point. How are these rumors (and a couple of
> > facts)
> > >related to anything I said? Or the diversity of the media?
> > Diversified how?
> > >
> > >H.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:06 PM
> > >To: CF-Community
> > >Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
> > >
> > >
> > >Yeah well anyone hearing that the tons of gold under the towers
> > >allegedly has turned up missing?
> > >
> > >Dow dropped how much? and we just sent 50 billion to the EU even
> > though
> > >the Euro is trading higher than the dollar...
> > >
> > >Wish the US media was a bit more diversified...
> > >
> > >[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
> present]
> > >[connecting people, places and things]
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:05:15 -0700
> > >Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
> > >
> > > > Sorry, but monetary considerations were and are secondary on a
> > news
> > > > story.
> > > >
> > > > I've been a professional journalist for 15 years in all sorts
> of
> > > > positions,
> > > > including management and including two stints as publisher of
> > small
> > > > publications. I've also been a career-long member of the
> Society
> > of
> > > > Professional Journalists and a former president of the San
> Diego
> > > > chapter (if
> > > > you want to compare credentials).
> > > >
> > > > When a big story breaks, the news comes first. It's not greed.
> > Yes,
> > > > it's
> > > > credibility -- you're credibility is at stake -- but it's not
> > > > credibility
> > > > aimed at increasing profits, it's credibility aimed at
> retaining
> > > > viability.
> > > > It's about quality. There's a nuance of difference between
> doing
> > > > something
> > > > because you think it might mean bigger profits down the road,
> and
> > > > doing
> > > > something because you want to retain reader and viewer respect,
> > let
> > > > alone
> > > > your own self respect. Profitability and viability is only a by
> > > > product of
> > > > doing a good job.
> > > >
> > > > Many of these newspapers that published special editions,
> > including
> > > > my own,
> > > > have no direct competition, so they are not likely to lose
> > readers if
> > > > they
> > > > don't roll the presses in the middle of the day.
> > > >
> > > > And if all of the networks run continuous coverage, then there
> is
> > no
> > > > real
> > > > advantage in one over the other. They are not going to gain
> any
> > new
> > > > viewers
> > > > because of it. Sure, they might lose if they don't, but these
> > are
> > > > news
> > > > organizations populated from top to bottom people who are
> > life-long
> > > > news
> > > > professionals (I've met many of them, including icons such as
> Don
> > > > Hewitt and
> > > > Sid Mickelson).
> > > >
> > > > Yes, these news organizations (including mine, E.W. Scripps)
> are
> > > > publicly
> > > > owned and ultimately accountable to their stock holders, but
> they
> > are
> > > > accountable first (and this is certainly true of E.W. Scripps)
> to
> > > > their own
> > > > conscience.
> > > >
> > > > H.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:18 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > That's the way media works.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > I've been trained in newspaper and radio, and specifically
> > trained
> > > > for news
> > > > and management. I used to run a radio station. It was a very
> > popular
> > > > station that year. I was the editor of my high school
> newspaper.
> > I
> > > > know how
> > > > it works. I feel free to criticize them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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