Back to the license thing....A driver's license doesn't require you to be
able to perform maintenance on a car.  It doesn't even require that you keep
your car in tune to avoid polluting those around you.  A drivers license
only requires that you know how to operate the gas pedal, steering wheel and
obey traffic signs.  How does this equate to an internet license that would
require a user to know how to perform maintenance & know how to identify
infections/scams.  I think you are holding the computer user to a higher
standard than most any other tool in the world.  I believe you should be
holding the programmers responsible.

I'm in the process of building a house right now and when I went to rent a
bobcat, I received a lot more instructions about safety than when I went to
buy a computer.   Actually, they told me nothing about firewalls, viruses
and such.  Additionally, why is it that when you set up WinXP it will
automatically configure your internet connection but yet, it won't limit the
connections only to/from windowsupdate.com?  Is that the user's fault?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:47 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: On stupidity & Michael Dinowitz
>
> I read up on the security holes in windows and IIS, I patch what I can, I
> close what holes are open. I learn and I want to learn. Even with using
> Windows, I take responsability for myself. Is that to much to ask people
to
> do? Learn before you enter the net. Pick up your garbage rather than
> throwing it on the street. Cover your mouth when you cough. You know,
> little
> things of personal reponsability.
> I don't hold my self as elite for knowing how things work.
>
> But lets bring this all back to the original comment here. I dislike the
> Fire*** because they put a nice, iconic front end on a browser/mail
> reader
> with limited functionality (compaired to it's big brother mozilla) so that
> people can use the products without worry or even knowledge. Yes,
> knowledgeable people use the products because they're also good, but
> they're
> designed to make it easy for end users. They allow people without
> knowledge
> to stay without knowledge and still use the net. But this is not about the
> products, it's about the users.
> Did I say that people should know how to repair a car engine? No. I don't
> expect end users to write code either. But you do need a license to drive
> and I feel that a license or at least some knowledge is needed to use the
> net.
>
>   _____
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