> I'm not assuming anything.You said that there should be no government mandate > against human nature with regards to Racism. > Perhaps there is some impairment to your understanding of what that statement > truly means.
no, i get the statement just fine. my biggest problem is this: if someone tells me that i have to hire a black person just to fill a quota, or if im not hired because a prospective employer has to hire a black man instead, again to fill a quota, then im now pissed off and one tick closer to racist because now, the system has fucked me. if we went into the interview on a level playing field, and a black man is more qualified then me, and there is no AA in place, well shit, ive got to go get better @ what i do, rather than go paint my fucking face. > > You are saying that if the nature of Caucasian America is to be racist and to > subjugate and segregate then this should be allowed to > continue. i dont think i ever said that its the nature of caucasian america... i think i said somethign more along the lines of RACISM sees no color, and that it happens on both sides, and that until either is treated equally, we are simply propagating the problem. There should be no government mandate against it, even though it goes against your country's constitution and your > decleration of independence. Therefore extrapolating this logic the Civil > Rights movement should never have been started, since this > Mandated a change in the Nature of Whites at the time. mis-informed, rednecks in the south, are not all whites. in fact racism didnt exist where my family came from, slavery didnt exist where my family came from, yet im potentially subject to unfair treatment, due to the bs. they call AA. > > Sorry, you can't be the Blackest white man (I find that hilarious btw, and > having a lot of non-white friends and trying to talk the > 'lingo' doesn't make you the blackest white man lol!), and still hold that if > racism is human nature it should be allowed. > > White Americans have NOT hired people regardless of color, and White > Americans control the hiring and college admissions in the > United States. thats a VERY UGLY BLANKET STATEMENT, and the kind of stupid statement that just makes me cringe... we have hired people of color, we do hire people of color, we just dont like being told that WE HAVE TO hire people of color. we have no problem with it. idiots in the past may have, but those fuckers are dead and gone. > > *THAT'S* the problem. > > And I can't believe you entered into discussion not recognising that single > inalienable fact. what fact? Gel, if you have talent, and you have drive, and you have motivation, and you have the will to succeed, and be part of a team, and a company has a position that you are the best candidate for, and you dont speak like a moron from the streets, well, then you would get hired, at most companies i know. whether you are black or you are white, it doesnt matter... that old stigma is gone, and if its still around, then i can only say that shit like AA are the reason. > > -Gel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Weeg > > If White owned businesses do not wish to hire Non White people then so be > > it. Let it continue. > > if the owner of that company wants to run his company that way... how can > ANYONE tell him different? > > why not just hire people regardless of color. as i would. see, you are > assuming that i dont like people due to the color of their > skin. > Gel, im the blackest white person you might ever meet. so please do not > assume any longer. > > my peer group? my 50 or so non-white friends, and the other 200 hundred or > so close white friends of mine, who all share everything > with people of many colors? should i ask them? or are you done fucking > assuming here? > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:144715 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
