No Tony.
Ignoring your argument which is meant to have emotional appeal:

Drive, determination,qualification in short MERIT, may guarantee a White person 
a job in corporate America, or admission into a top
University, but the FACT is that it did NOT guarantee a Non White the same 
position or entry. HENCE the need for the Affirmative
action program. This is where I say that certain individuals must be 
experiencing cognitive dissonance if they do not realise and
accept this.It is a fact.It was the *Reason* for the Civil Rights movement in 
the United States which was NOT that long ago!

Did you read ANYTHING I posted where I cited facts and excerpts from studies 
done about this issue??

-Gel 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Weeg 

what fact? Gel, if you have talent, and you have drive, and you have 
motivation, and you have the will to succeed, and be part of a
team, and a company has a position that you are the best candidate for, and you 
dont speak like a moron from the streets, well, then
you would get hired, at most companies i know.  whether you are black or you 
are white, it doesnt matter... that old stigma is gone,
and if its still around, then i can only say that shit like AA are the reason.


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