oh please. I don't see myself as a victim thankyouverymuch. But just for my information anyone ever tell you anything of the kind? I didn't think so. So please don't patronize me.
It's a little insulting to hear a white male lecture me on overcoming obstacles. You don't have a clue and you don't even have a clue how little clue you have. Tell you what -- you seem committed to your point of view. I'll quit confusing you with the facts and maybe we can all stay friends. Dana On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:43:28 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > what numbers? You posted a list. Your logic appears to be that if > > there is at least one woman CEO, then women are not discriminated > > against. And the same for minorities! > > > > Both you and Gel are not understanding what I'm saying. I am not > saying that America is fair and discrimination free - it isn't, and it > never will be. We are in complete agreement about that. > > What I'm saying is that if you're a minority in this country, and > willing to traverse roadblocks, you can go to a top school and get a > top job. Period. I know people that've done it, I've done it, my > wife has done it, and many, many others have done it. > > I know people that've moved here at 40, are black, and not spoken a > word of english. 10 years after coming to America they're top people > in their field. > > If you're committed to, say, being a partner at a top law firm, you > can be. You may face discrimination along the way, you may have to go > to school B instead of school A, but you'll get it done if you're > committed. If some moron tells you to take a personality test or says > you're too dumb to succeed, leave. You to a different firm, go to a > different school. > > The bottom line is, if it's not race or sex, it'll be weight. They > don't like you because you're too fat. Or too skinny. Or too short. > Or too tall. Or have red hair. Or have have curly hair. Or speak > too softly. Or too loudly. Or they don't like your family. Or it's > Tuesday. Or whatever. > > You can be a victim, or you can achieve your goals. It's your choice. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get help! RoboHelp http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=58 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:145449 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
