Here we go again, violence and money are the root of everything.

On 12/15/05, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Violence has been proven time and again as the thing which causes new
> inventions,  cultural and civil growth, the rule of law.
>
> Violence has freed millions, saved millions, maybe billions.
>
> I didn't join and agree to kill just because someone tells me to.  I joined
> a military that at it's highest levels is run by our elected
> representatives.
>
> I'm sorry we don't live in some communal state of blissful anarchy
> (oxymoron).
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:11 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Iran
> >
> > When someone joins the military, they agree to kill just
> > because someone tells them to. I have no respect for that. I
> > don't particularly care that you have issues with it, it
> > speaks volumes that you would resort to violence though.
> >
> > On 12/15/05, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I have a hard time believing that you have no respect for
> > the men and
> > > women who protect your right to make completely boneheaded
> > statements like that.
> > > I don't care if you're a pacifist and despise war, I'm fine
> > with that.
> > > I may argue with you about it, but it's your right.  I however have
> > > serious issues with you saying you don't respect the military that
> > > protects your freedom to hold that opinion. My brother is
> > in the Navy
> > > and I respect what he does immensely. In fact, if someone
> > said that to
> > > my face that they don't respect the military, I'd stomp on theirs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:52 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Iran
> > >
> > > I am a pacifist, I despise war, and I have no respect for
> > the military.
> > >
> > > On 12/15/05, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > wayne,
> > > >
> > > > do you accept that *SOME* civilian casualities are part of war.
> > > > not, do you support the war, and accept that.  but at its
> > base, do
> > > > you accept that?  just wondering.  i hate to accept it.
> > but i think
> > > > its a fact of war.
> > > >
> > > > tw
> > > >
> > > > On 12/15/05, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Innocent people are being killed by us right now, thats the
> > > > > problem I
> > > have.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/15/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Did you miss the whole food for oil scandal? How many people
> > > > > > have died over the thirteen years Saddam was building palaces
> > > > > > and paying off governments with the money meant for food and
> > > > > > medicine? We're building hospitals and schools and
> > water treatment plants.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/15/05, Wayne Putterill  wrote:
> > > > > > > What's the difference between dropping a bomb and
> > doing what
> > > > > > > you
> > > mention?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When children die because the hospitals have been
> > destroyed,
> > > > > > > or
> > > there
> > > > > > > is no clean water, or food, or power etc. what is
> > the difference?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is it OK because nobody looked into their eyes and
> > pulled a trigger?
> > > > > > > Death is death, it doesn't matter if a soldier slits the
> > > > > > > throat of a baby, if it was crushed beneath a
> > bombed house or
> > > > > > > it died because of disease - it is still another
> > innocent dead because of the war.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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