Isn't this the truth. It is always a vocal minority that try to use some
action as an attack and rally the troops to the cause. What is funny is how
these guys are all like family businesses. Now the kids are all taking over.
Amazing. It is big business. Here in Houston Lakewood church is trying to
lease the old Summit (Compaq Center now) for 9 million + 60+ million in
renovations. You got to love that tax free thing. I need to start a church,
pay myself a couple of mil a year and fleece people. Man, if I could just
shuck these ethics and morals I grew up with.

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-Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:18 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Church and State
>
>
> Howard-
>
> I strongly disagree with you about the "hostility" issue.
> Sorry you feel that way.
>
> Neither Mo nor I are expressing hostility towards Christianity.
> Please re-read our posts more carefully, sir.
>
> What we are saying is that evangelistic / fundamentalist Christian sect (a
> minority of all Christians) are the *only* group which is demanding the
> introduction of prayer and *their* beliefs into the schools.
>
> (Now, I'm just speaking for myself.)  I have NEVER seen Catholics,
> Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, or other "mainstream" Christians do
> any of the things we are criticizing. Only the "fringe" groups.
> But they are
> very vocal and gaining political power in ways that frighten me.
>
> Nor have I ever seen Muslim, Buddhist, Taoist, Hindu, Shinto etc. etc.
> groups trying to do what they do.
>
> Please get it through your head sir that this is not "hostility", it is a
> defense against an attack by a group that is undermining the equal access
> and equal protection.  They think that their particular stripe of
> Christianity is the only way, and are attempting to force it on other
> Christians as well as non-Christians.
>
> -Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:38 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Church and State
>
>
> I think you prove my point on the hostility issue -- hostility toward
> Christianity, because no where have I supported using schools to
> push dogma
> or Christianity.
>
> I have said -- equal access -- equal protection. It's
> constitutional. And as
> much as you might like to wish it away because of your hostility toward
> Christianity, you can't.
>
> H.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Church and State
>
>
> At 04:59 PM 1/27/02, Howard wrote:
>
> >5) What you are preaching is not government neutrality in respect to
> >religion, but government hostility to religion.
>
>
> No, what is being said is that no one religion has the right to
> force their
> presence on others in a forum funded by taxpayer money, i.e. by the
> government.
>
> And again, you are mixing religion and Christianity, because no other
> religion is demanding the right to pray or teach their dogma in public
> schools.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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