Ben, Any time.
I used to live near Lynchburg Virginia. That's where Jerry Falwell is located. In the local schools around there, these same issues come up with nauseating regularly. Creationism, school prayer etc., are all brought up on a regular basis to the local school board by his followers. I'm not even going to get into his shilling for the republican party. It seems to me that they do not have any appreciation of the separation of church and state, except when some decision negatively impacts them. For instance church assets and properties are not taxed, unless they are used for commercial or private interests. About 12 years ago the IRS made a decision that part of the church was not tax exempt because the church ran a for-profit travel agency. You should have heard the screams of outrage from his followers about that. Many used the separation of church and state arguments. regards, larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:00 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Church and State > > > Larry- > > THANK YOU. > > -Ben > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:10 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Church and State > > > Not hostility towards Christianity, but hostility towards the very > intolerant fundamentalist Christianity. No mainstream > Christian denomination > is advocating prayer in schools, or creationism or actively > wants to tear > down the walls between church and state. Moreover how many > Episcopalian, > Catholic, or mainstream Protestant ministers or priests have > applauded what > happened on Sept. 11 like the leaders of the fundie movement > (i.e.., Falwell > and Robertson). Then almost immediately after giving a very > weasel worded > retraction turned around and put out a fund raising letter > saying the exact > same thing. How many mainstream Christian leaders have > advocated putting > gays in concentration camps like Pat Robertson. How many mainstream > Christian ministers or priests have advocated establishing a > theocracy in > this country. I could go on but it would be belaboring the issue. > > The point is that its not hostility towards mainstream > Christianity which is > typically tolerant of others, but to extremist fundamentalist > Christianity > which is ideologically the same as the Taliban. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > http://www.pacel.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:38 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Church and State > > > > > > I think you prove my point on the hostility issue -- > hostility toward > > Christianity, because no where have I supported using schools > > to push dogma > > or Christianity. > > > > I have said -- equal access -- equal protection. It's > > constitutional. And as > > much as you might like to wish it away because of your > > hostility toward > > Christianity, you can't. > > > > H. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:08 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Church and State > > > > > > At 04:59 PM 1/27/02, Howard wrote: > > > > >5) What you are preaching is not government neutrality in > respect to > > >religion, but government hostility to religion. > > > > > > No, what is being said is that no one religion has the right > > to force their > > presence on others in a forum funded by taxpayer money, i.e. by the > > government. > > > > And again, you are mixing religion and Christianity, > because no other > > religion is demanding the right to pray or teach their > dogma in public > > schools. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Macromedia ColdFusion 5 Training from the Source Step by Step ColdFusion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201758474/houseoffusion Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
