Hmm. I am trying a thought experiment here. I am an employer. I need
oh say a janitor. I have one applicant, who has papers that appear
legal, though he also does not speak English. I suspect that he may be
illegal. On the other hand I have a good old boy willing to work for
the same pay and whose accent tells me he comes right out of those
hills over yonder. Who will I hire?

I am guessing that the unemployed Americans are not where the work is.

Dana

On 8/10/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The opposite would happen.
>
> Those jobs would still have to be filled, taxes would still be coming in,
> and the number of American's unemployed would go down.  More tax income, and
> less government spending on welfare and social programs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 5:57 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
>
> yes, this is my point exactly.  How much will we start losing in tax
> revenue if we suddenly get rid of 12 million illegal immigrants.
>
> On 8/10/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > yes perhaps. Money is still going into the system under the numbers
> however.
> >
> > On 8/10/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'll bet that the socials are fake, or hijacked.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Stewart
> > > ColdFusion Developer
> > >
> > > SSTWebworks
> > > 4405 Oakshyre Way
> > > Raleigh, NC. 27616
> > > (703) 220-2835
> > >
> > > http://www.sstwebworks.com
> > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 4:52 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
> > >
> > > I would be curious as to how many of the 12 million illegals actually
> > > do pay taxes.   I was talking with a guy the other day and he told me
> > > that all of his workers had given him socials, but he was pretty sure
> > > that most of them weren't legal and weren't filing for refunds since
> > > they feared getting caught.
> > >
> > > On 8/10/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > My big problem, is that there are 12 million illegals in the country,
> they
> > > > use resources (clinics, schools, welfare, etc) intended for tax paying
> > > > citizens, without paying into the system. So their getting a free
> ride.
> > > >
> > > > There are two counties in Virginia, Prince William and Loudon that
> have
> > > > enacted legislation that requires proof of citizenship before being
> > > allowed
> > > > access to county services, I'm all for this, provided that it's a
> level
> > > > playing field, which means that everyone is held to the same standard.
> > > >
> > > > I don't buy into "oh it's so difficult and expensive to get into the
> US"
> > > > it's not. The system does need to be streamlined, but I've seen no
> > > evidence
> > > > of any ridiculous fees...
> > > >
> > > > I also don't buy into the notion that the US owes the world something
> and
> > > > should simply throw open it's borders. There's not another country in
> the
> > > > world that has completely open borders, we shouldn't have them either.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Scott Stewart
> > > > ColdFusion Developer
> > > >
> > > > SSTWebworks
> > > > 4405 Oakshyre Way
> > > > Raleigh, NC. 27616
> > > > (703) 220-2835
> > > >
> > > > http://www.sstwebworks.com
> > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 4:00 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
> > > >
> > > > >nah, the crime rate, the illegals who populate our jails, and the
> money
> > > > >I FUCKING SPEND ON IT with my $1000 a paycheck that goes towards
> > > > >them and the fucking war in iraq.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to see some real numbers on that. All I've ever heard so far
> is
> > > > nativist rhetoric about the evil illegal immigrants who are here to
> murder
> > > > us, rape our wimmin and park illegally.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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