Because the governments and cultures of Canada and Mexico do not follow the social and moral norms of the United States.
I am a nationalist. Not a trans-nationalist, not a globalist. The United States of America is my nation, my people, my culture, and my society. -----Original Message----- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:41 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? so why would you not be in favor of a European-Union-type model? Dana On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes I believe in minimal government intrusion, not no intrusion at all. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:19 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > so wait. I am not trying to give you a hard time here, honest. But > aren't you the one who advocates a minimum of government regulation? > Or do I have you mixed up with Gruss? > > By the way, I have no particular agenda in terms of illegal aliens. > They are illegal for a start, which is cartainly a problem any way you > look at it. But I'd like to stay rooted in reality if possible. If > illegal aliens are getting government benefits, I am not sure how. One > of the big problems for my local emergency room is that if say a truck > full of illegal aliens flips over on the highway, UNMH is shock-trauma > for the entire state, and those illegal aliens don't have insurance > and are going back to Mexico once they are patched up, so it's a lot > of uncompensated care. However. > > From what I have seen and read, most illegal aliens, here anyway, seem > to be self-employed. If this is true it would seem they add value to > the economy if anything. > > http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=881584 > > On 8/11/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not pay the least at the cost of the law. > > > > No. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:05 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > > > it shouldn't be the employers place to do what? Pay the least? I > > missed something here surely. > > > > On 8/11/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And it shouldn't be the employers place to do that. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:30 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > > > > > >Hmm. I am trying a thought experiment here. I am an employer. I need > > > >oh say a janitor. I have one applicant, who has papers that appear > > > >legal, though he also does not speak English. I suspect that he may be > > > >illegal. On the other hand I have a good old boy willing to work for > > > >the same pay and whose accent tells me he comes right out of those > > > >hills over yonder. Who will I hire? > > > > > > > >I am guessing that the unemployed Americans are not where the work is. > > > > > > > >Dana > > > > > > > > > > The next question to ask is how much is the illegal willing to work for > > and > > > how much is the unemployed American asking? Given that I am willing to > bet > > > that the employer will hire the one who gets paid the least. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:240059 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5