so why would you not be in favor of a European-Union-type model?

Dana

On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes I believe in minimal government intrusion, not no intrusion at all.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:19 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
>
> so wait. I am not trying to give you a hard time here, honest. But
> aren't you the one who advocates a minimum of government regulation?
> Or do I have you mixed up with Gruss?
>
> By the way, I have no particular agenda in terms of illegal aliens.
> They are illegal for a start, which is cartainly a problem any way you
> look at it. But I'd like to stay rooted in reality if possible. If
> illegal aliens are getting government benefits, I am not sure how. One
> of the big problems for my local emergency room is that if say a truck
> full of illegal aliens flips over on the highway, UNMH is shock-trauma
> for the entire state, and those illegal aliens don't have insurance
> and are going back to Mexico once they are patched up, so it's a lot
> of uncompensated care. However.
>
> From what I have seen and read, most illegal aliens, here anyway, seem
> to be self-employed. If this is true it would seem they add value to
> the economy if anything.
>
> http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=881584
>
> On 8/11/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not pay the least at the cost of the law.
> >
> > No.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:05 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
> >
> > it shouldn't be the employers place to do what? Pay the least? I
> > missed something here surely.
> >
> > On 8/11/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > And it shouldn't be the employers place to do that.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:30 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
> > >
> > > >Hmm. I am trying a thought experiment here. I am an employer. I need
> > > >oh say a janitor. I have one applicant, who has papers that appear
> > > >legal, though he also does not speak English. I suspect that he may be
> > > >illegal. On the other hand I have a good old boy willing to work for
> > > >the same pay and whose accent tells me he comes right out of those
> > > >hills over yonder. Who will I hire?
> > > >
> > > >I am guessing that the unemployed Americans are not where the work is.
> > > >
> > > >Dana
> > > >
> > >
> > > The next question to ask is how much is the illegal willing to work for
> > and
> > > how much is the unemployed American asking? Given that I am willing to
> bet
> > > that the employer will hire the one who gets paid the least.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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