> -----Original Message----- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 8:51 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Christian's: Paranoid or not > > > Jim wrote: > > Although the question may still be open as to how an observer might > affect > > the outcome of wave function collapse there's nothing that even > remotely > > suggests that that outcome would be "what we want it to be". > > > > Hmm, I wasn't connecting anything to QM specifically, simply pointing > out that, at present, it's the state of the art in understanding > reality. Therefore if Buddhism is the study how to best experience > reality, and physics is the study of what reality is, then reality's > origins or causes must be revealed by the state of physics study in > some future state (when we can explain the cause of the Big Bang for > example). > > Christianity, on the other hand, claims to have already answered the > question of reality's origin/cause. > > Seems to me that Christianity and physics are both the study of the > origin of reality. If that's true, and we're calling Christianity > religion, then mustn't we also call physics religion? Where's the > flaw in reasoning?
Didn't you just answer that question? Christianity has already answered the question - there is no "study" since there is no possibility that any answer other that one already formulated will be accepted. But more broadly this is the difference between science and religion to begin with. Science is an ever-changing "belief" which requires evidence and falsifiable conclusions. Religion is unconcerned with evidence and, in fact, often rejects evidence that undermines the already stated conclusions. In short science is looking for answers, religion already has them. In both cases however I think you're over-stating things tho' - neither Christianity are defined as dealing with the origins of reality. It's definitely a part of both of them but actually a rather small part. It's a larger part of physics simply because the question has not been answered already, but still only a very specialized group of physicists deal with origin theories. Most work in physics is actually pretty pragmatic. Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:247930 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
