OK, you would agree then that making everyone pay dues (even though some would have their money go to charity) is a tax? Because when I asked Larry that, he said 'no'.
While we are at it, why not just tax everyone a 'union tax' and make them send that money to charity. Judah, I always appreciate your insight, but the comparison doesn't make sense to me. A union is not a legislative body and therefore shouldnot have an ability to tax anyone's income. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have nothing against charities. I do however have a thing against > being > > told I have to donate to charity. Kind of inches in to that freedom > thing > > we have come to love here in America. > > A rand solution is not equitable as you are still forcing someone to take > > some of their income and give it away solely because someone else wants > to > > do the same thing. Imagine how you would feel if your employer told you > that > > you had to donate money to charity and that they were going to just take > it > > form your paycheck regardless. You would go nuts. But if its a union, > you > > are ok with it. That is asinine. > > We do that all the time. It is called taxation through a > representative government. As I mentioned previously, there have been > several decades where money has been taken from my paycheck and > distributed to organizations and causes with which I disagree. Things > like Abstinence-only sex education for instance. Or government support > of faith-based charities. > > In the case of a workplace union, they are a representative body. You > can vote them in and out. You can change the officers. I'm still not > 100% convinced that EFCA is the best idea out there. Union membership > is dropping. Part of that, I think, is because unions aren't as > important as they once were. I also know that quite a bit of it is > because union busting is a hell of a lot easier and legal these days. > I think that there is a balance to be struck and I don't know if EFCA > is the right balance or not. > > I still don't get your argument against unions th > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:293059 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5