>From talking to actual Canadians who use the system every day and talking to actual Brits, and talking people who live in a few other countries where they have socialized medicine...while it may not be perfect (what system is?)...it is far better than what we have now in the US. When you have no more barriers to getting preventive care, you detect issues earlier, which also means, in most cases, it's also a lot cheaper to treat and it also reduces the amounts of people going to ER's for issues that should be getting retaken care of in the doctors offices. Plus, with a single system of payment, it removes the layers and layers of complexity that doc's offices have to deal with for payment. There are a lot of cost reductions in socialized medicine that do offset a lot of the increases in costs that the government picks up by sponsoring health care.
I think the biggest deception in this whole issue is that opponents of healthcare have convinced the teabaggers that there is a difference between paying a premium to them and paying your premiums via taxes. The only difference there is who is getting paid. So if you taxes go up and you no longer have to pay an insurance premium (in the case of single payer), there really is no logical difference in what is happening with your money. With single payer, there is a good possibility that because this would be spread out amongst a much larger pool of people, that what you are paying may be considerably less. So meanwhile the dumbass teabaggers, who have been duped into bitching about resultant tax hikes form this, keep screaming about taxes, the insurance company is laughing at their rubes all the way to the bank. Personally...I would rather pay the government and know that I can get treatment without going bankrupt than deal with the insurance companies and hospitals, knowing tat I will have to declare bankruptcy to deal with all my medical bills since I don't have access to insurance(which is something I am facing right now). Eric -----Original Message----- From: Kris Sisk [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:08 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead Personally I trust the government about as far as I trust big coorporations, which is to say not at all. The government is probably the single most corrupt organization in the nation and big corporations see us as nothing more than a means to make money regardless of any harm done in pursuit of that goal. Insurance companies in particular are among the biggest offenders of that, but I don't believe it'd be any better (or worse) under a fully government run program. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:317821 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm