And we all know how useful a single data point is. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Sam <sammyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My bro-inlaw in the UK was told he needed to be tested for kidney and > prostate cancer six months ago. Three months later he got the tests, > Last week he got the results. He needs surgery for both and is now > going on the waiting list. He's only 50 and we're very afraid he won't > make it. > > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Eric Roberts > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > From talking to actual Canadians who use the system every day and talking > to > > actual Brits, and talking people who live in a few other countries where > > they have socialized medicine...while it may not be perfect (what system > > is?)...it is far better than what we have now in the US. When you have no > > more barriers to getting preventive care, you detect issues earlier, > which > > also means, in most cases, it's also a lot cheaper to treat and it also > > reduces the amounts of people going to ER's for issues that should be > > getting retaken care of in the doctors offices. Plus, with a single > system > > of payment, it removes the layers and layers of complexity that doc's > > offices have to deal with for payment. There are a lot of cost > reductions > > in socialized medicine that do offset a lot of the increases in costs > that > > the government picks up by sponsoring health care. > > > > I think the biggest deception in this whole issue is that opponents of > > healthcare have convinced the teabaggers that there is a difference > between > > paying a premium to them and paying your premiums via taxes. The only > > difference there is who is getting paid. So if you taxes go up and you > no > > longer have to pay an insurance premium (in the case of single payer), > there > > really is no logical difference in what is happening with your money. > With > > single payer, there is a good possibility that because this would be > spread > > out amongst a much larger pool of people, that what you are paying may be > > considerably less. So meanwhile the dumbass teabaggers, who have been > duped > > into bitching about resultant tax hikes form this, keep screaming about > > taxes, the insurance company is laughing at their rubes all the way to > the > > bank. > > > > Personally...I would rather pay the government and know that I can get > > treatment without going bankrupt than deal with the insurance companies > and > > hospitals, knowing tat I will have to declare bankruptcy to deal with all > my > > medical bills since I don't have access to insurance(which is something I > am > > facing right no > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:317931 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
