On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:57 PM, denstar <valliants...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Do you see your bias yet or do we need to keep drilling? > > The problem is that the scenarios are not "equal". Although *both* do > Bad Things, that doesn't make them the "same".
Keep drilling he says. > Look dude, we can *easily* /fake/ DNA now. Manufacture it to appear > to be from whatever person we want. You knew that, right? There's a > test to see if DNA has been manufactured, but it's not used by any law > enforcement agencies as yet. Are you accusing law enforcement or just saying it's easy to frame someone? > You seem to be saying that we should just (indeed, can *only*) "trust" > the watchers. I disagree. > > If anything, we need *more* checks on that power, not /less/. I totally agree. I thought you're point was we can't trust anybody so do away with. > I like hash that agrees with me. And hash that doesn't. Ah hell- I > just like hash, period. Hash-marks, hash-ish, hash-browns... Hash tables? > Seriously tho; saying that McCarthy was actually an OK dude, unfairly > slandered by a rival politician*... seems like a bit of a stretch. More like he was an OK dude UNTIL he was slandered by the news and went off the deep end. In the end he was very flawed. > Saying Bush43 was no worse than the rest is a similar stretch, IMHO. You probably think Carter was a great President. We have different opinions. > Who really raped us? Those at the top, of course! Been that way for > ever and ever. That's not a party deal. No, it's really bad now. Much worse than it's ever been. > What do you think about the "Citizens United v. Federal Election > Commission" SC ruling? I don't think I heard about it. > So you think that it's Obama's fault, and the fault of this health > care legislation? Yes. > Did Bush43 leave Obama with a surplus he mishandled or some such? He left a $750 billion package to save the banks. Money was wasted and spend again after it was paid back. Then more money was taken, the stimulus, and wasted. Now we borrowed $10 trillion more for a health plan most don't like. Now he want's more money for the banks. He did it wrong and that's forgivable if he learned from his first mistake. He didn't and doesn't seem to want to learn. > I bet that's what happened! The lefty media just spun this whole story > about massive debt prior to Obama taking office out of nothing, and > now that's what people think happened. In reality things were "fine, > just fine" before Obama took office (then), but since he has been at > the helm (now)-- man the country is in the crapper! We had a banking crisis at the end of Bush's term. Test of leadership shall we say. How did that test play out? > Who's fault is it, that we're more than ankle-deep in debt? A > specific individual? Congress? Us? Obama, Pelosi, Reid. > Eh. We'll be back. It's what we do. That's not the plan. We don't like being the superpower, so they think. > Maybe that Oil money from the war will start to come in soon. That's be nice but it won't be enough anymore. > Was I "here"? I don't remember it. Unless it was some discussion > about the PBS special on Clinton, perhaps? You were using your other name back then. > That Clinton guy knew how to get stuff done, scams or no. Did he? I though he just let the GOP do whatever they wanted. > Stuff was proven, but I don't think proven bogus. It was all proven bogus. > What's TPM? M == Media? Talking Points Memo, like you didn't know :) > Reform is reform. It's an ongoing process. This was vetted a lot > better than the war was, and people weren't rebounding from a terror > attack. The war was bi-partisan, this wasn't. I'm not sure people will bounce back from an overburdened health care system. > Bush43, as an individual, had a real opportunity to do something > amazing there. What a waste of a united front. That's weird, everyone was happy when he said he'd do something but half got mad when he did. > This is America! The only people who can't find work are those who > are too lazy, right? That was 2 years ago when unemployment was at 5%. Then you could get a job if you tried hard enough and maybe sacrificed a little salary. Now, you're shit out of luck. > We're damn lucky we're not worse off, IMO. Cut taxes and increase > spending? Yesh, sounds like a good idea to me! And it works, see! > Or it would have, had we given it more of a chance. Are you trying to imply tax cuts caused the banking crisis? > Because people at the top generally don't want to be at the top all > alone. They want to bring the masses up with 'em. That's why Bush43 > was such a good thing for this country. Now you're saying the rich got richer and the poor got poorer under Bush. That's not really the case. Less poor and more rich would be more accurate. How about today? More poor people, especially minorities. More rich people. The highest pay now is government workers. Imagine a day when the more government worker earn over $100k than non-government workers. > I thought about working for Google when they "looked me up", so to > speak. Even be they scary. If there was a 'burque branch, I'd have > gone for it, probably... I need more loot, like many others. A lot of hours but free food, if you work a lot of hours :) > Heh. Work. ... Do you think that the New Deal was a scam too, Sam? > Some history books say it was Good, but you know how history books > are. It's one way of employing people tho, that's for sure! (history > book writing, that is) I think there are good and bad parts. > Government? Sorta. Back when I was on "soft" money (which I was for > almost a decade IIRC, and never assured for more than a year), > totally. I work for the university, but my pay comes from Continuing > Education, which is self-sustaining. Ah, so you're a lifer. You're safe. Why would you care about the unemployment rate. Actually the more unemployed the more education you can sell. > I do love our country tho, and don't think it's in the shitter any > more than it usually is. I'm certainly not in the mood for revolution > because of this health care bill, or our deficit. Other stuff, sure! > (I'm always up for a good revolution)... but not this. We're not there yet. It's more like a warning, if things keep heading down this unsustainable path then in a few ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:319198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
