nice rant Den On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:57 PM, denstar <valliants...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Sam wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:42 PM, denstar wrote: >> >>>> And now it's worse because of what he started? Which he didn't start. >>>> He just made it evil so now it's progressively more evil because of >>>> him? >>> >>> It's always been Evil. Bush43 used FUD to push through, or get away >>> with, a whole grip of Evil though. >> >> Do you see your bias yet or do we need to keep drilling? > > The problem is that the scenarios are not "equal". Although *both* do > Bad Things, that doesn't make them the "same". > >>> Your solution is laughable. Laughter is good for the heart! >> >> You do know there are cameras everywhere these days, ATMS, credit card >> transactions. Not easy to stay under the radar anymore. Funny part is >> Google is probably your second favorite company in the world. > > Heh. Reminds me of this Matlock episode where the murder had his > secretary get a photo speeding ticket while wearing a mask of his > face, providing his alibi. > > Look dude, we can *easily* /fake/ DNA now. Manufacture it to appear > to be from whatever person we want. You knew that, right? There's a > test to see if DNA has been manufactured, but it's not used by any law > enforcement agencies as yet. > > More and more, it's going to be about *using* information, vs. its > *availability*. We're already there, actually. I mean, why would > *any* evidence be inadmissible, otherwise? > > You seem to be saying that we should just (indeed, can *only*) "trust" > the watchers. I disagree. > > If anything, we need *more* checks on that power, not /less/. > > Google scares the crap out of me. > >>>> Bush didn't have to say it because he had a plan and it worked. Glad >>>> you're happy with a Change for 5% to 10% unemployment. >>> >>> Is this statement similar to the one about McCarthy? "They /were/ >>> spies" and "he had a plan and it /worked/"? >> >> Only if you use opinionated hash. > > I like hash that agrees with me. And hash that doesn't. Ah hell- I > just like hash, period. Hash-marks, hash-ish, hash-browns... > > Seriously tho; saying that McCarthy was actually an OK dude, unfairly > slandered by a rival politician*... seems like a bit of a stretch. > > Saying Bush43 was no worse than the rest is a similar stretch, IMHO. > > *and "liberal" or "left leaning" history book writers > >>> He had a plan alright, and it seems to have worked. He and his >>> friends are doing better than ever. >> >> I think all ex-presidents are doing quit well. As are there friends. >> But if you're running with the ole GOP = big Corps and they all >> fleeced the country then I think you need to look at the banks, Wall >> Street and the Dems to see who really raped us. > > Who really raped us? Those at the top, of course! Been that way for > ever and ever. That's not a party deal. > > What do you think about the "Citizens United v. Federal Election > Commission" SC ruling? > >>> "We the people" tho... no so much. Crappy plan in regards to the rest >>> of us, IMHO. >> >> We were all doing well until dopenchange guy kneecapped the country. >> Did I mention he said expect un-employment to hover around 10% for a >> long time. How is that Bush's fault again? > > So you think that it's Obama's fault, and the fault of this health > care legislation? > > Did Bush43 leave Obama with a surplus he mishandled or some such? > > I bet that's what happened! The lefty media just spun this whole story > about massive debt prior to Obama taking office out of nothing, and > now that's what people think happened. In reality things were "fine, > just fine" before Obama took office (then), but since he has been at > the helm (now)-- man the country is in the crapper! > > Who's fault is it, that we're more than ankle-deep in debt? A > specific individual? Congress? Us? > > Eh. We'll be back. It's what we do. > > Maybe that Oil money from the war will start to come in soon. > >>> That was a once in a lifetime exception, like banning assault weapons. >> >> You do remember that ban was a scam? We covered right hear on HOF. > > Was I "here"? I don't remember it. Unless it was some discussion > about the PBS special on Clinton, perhaps? > > That Clinton guy knew how to get stuff done, scams or no. > >>> It's The Right that "gets stuff done" due to their unity, is what I >>> was implying. >>> >>> Mostly it *is* shit, but still. At least they're consistent. :)p >> >> What's been getting done? > > I think we're still backwards on who gets what done, but to clarify, > the Right has gotten a lot done with, I suspect, lesser numbers of > folk than the Left. I know surveys and such say that it's like 50/50 > or something close, but I think Lefties are under-reported by their > very nature. > >>>> That's pretty stupid, you just demonstrated the opposite to be true. >>>> You admit being duped like a cult follower and yet you mock the masses >>>> for not seeing the light. >>> >>> I was duped? I haven't been surprised in years, man. It's a curse. >> >> Opps sorry, I thought you knew. > > I never thought Obama was Ron Paul. I didn't expect him to give back > all the power Bush43 has usurped. Hoped, maybe, but definitely not > expected. > >>>>> Taking us to war on false pretenses? Not so much. >> >> We've been over that and the entire Bush lied people died slogan was >> proven bogus. You need to let go of the TPM sound bites. Read about >> the issue and update your thoughts. > > Stuff was proven, but I don't think proven bogus. > > Unless it's a conspiracy! I'm always up for a good conspiracy. > > What's TPM? M == Media? > >>> You're saying you think it is OK to lie though? >> >> I'm saying Biden lied not Bush, yet you're mad at Bush. The DNC is good. >> >>> If health care reform was a "made up" need, like going to war, I'd be >>> pissed. >> >> It is. Get mad. > > Ha! So needing to go to war /was/ a lie! Damn, another conspiracy > bites the dust. Oh well- I still did my part, and kept buying stuff. > >> We could have used reform, but in a different way. Everything about >> the current bill is a lie to steal power and money. As for the war, it >> was a bi-partisan war. Be mad at everybody. > > Reform is reform. It's an ongoing process. This was vetted a lot > better than the war was, and people weren't rebounding from a terror > attack. > > You are right though. "Everybody" was together for a bit there, > presenting a united front; t'was both beautiful and horrendous at the > same time. > > Bush43, as an individual, had a real opportunity to do something > amazing there. What a waste of a united front. > >>> Then: things were good. Now: thing are bad. >> >> Yeah for the 10 million people that can't find work. > > This is America! The only people who can't find work are those who > are too lazy, right? > > We're damn lucky we're not worse off, IMO. Cut taxes and increase > spending? Yesh, sounds like a good idea to me! And it works, see! > Or it would have, had we given it more of a chance. > > Because people at the top generally don't want to be at the top all > alone. They want to bring the masses up with 'em. That's why Bush43 > was such a good thing for this country. > > I thought about working for Google when they "looked me up", so to > speak. Even be they scary. If there was a 'burque branch, I'd have > gone for it, probably... I need more loot, like many others. > > Heh. Work. ... Do you think that the New Deal was a scam too, Sam? > Some history books say it was Good, but you know how history books > are. It's one way of employing people tho, that's for sure! (history > book writing, that is) > >>> Fer realz? >>> >>> Who's wearing the goggles again? >> >> I guess you're job is safe, do you work for the > > Government? Sorta. Back when I was on "soft" money (which I was for > almost a decade IIRC, and never assured for more than a year), > totally. I work for the university, but my pay comes from Continuing > Education, which is self-sustaining. > > I'm job "safe" because I work for way less than I'm "worth". I think > this is a Bad Thing for other people who do what I do though. And not > really a Good Thing for me either, as there's been conflict, and I now > have a wife and a kid to support (and the medical bills are killing > me. That crap stacks up fast, even with "great" insurance.). > > It's hard for me to put value on my knowledge tho. I love this > profession, it's not like "work" to me. Sure it's been years and > years of learning stuff (hands on, woohoo!), but I've loved every > minute of it (well, besides the office politics of the last 5 years or > so. The work itself has been a blast.). It's just *sooo* hard for me > to bill at market rates with a straight face (even these market rates > =]). > > Really tho, I'm a bad ass tech guru. That's why I have job security. > Not in *a* job, but *the* job. If anything, working with/for the > government has held me back professionally. I didn't mind, as I was > doing child care stuff and whatnot, and felt good about what I did, > but now there's a whole team and I'm not needed like I was... > > Really I feel like it's time I did my own thing, but I'm tied to my > insurance, and then there's retirement (I'm 3/5ths in)... ah well. > Somehow I'll swing it all. Because I believe I can. > > And this is... > > AMERICA! Fuck yeah! > > Course, I'd feel that way no matter where I live, theoretically. I > was raised that way. "We can do it (and if not, I'll do it)!". > > I do love our country tho, and don't think it's in the shitter any > more than it usually is. I'm certainly not in the mood for revolution > because of this health care bill, or our deficit. Other stuff, sure! > (I'm always up for a good revolution)... but not this. > > Damn. Should have ended it on the "Fuck yeah!", that had a real > end-of-post ring to it. Oh well. Fix it in post-production. > > :Den "the historian" Oner > > -- > From suc
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