Clearly you thought it out better than I did. I still think affirmative
action is discriminatory and past it's usefulness though. Race shouldn't
be a consideration in who gets to go to a good school or who gets a job.

-----Original Message-----
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:12 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA
Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.


On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Though if I had to choose between two qualified middle-class kids and
>> they were basically equal except for race, I'd probably go for the
>> minority kid because the minority middle class is small and tenuous
>> and needs more help than the white middle class.
>
> Just curious, how is that not a racist statement?

That is a fine question and it is one that does trouble me. It is
racist, in a very narrow sense, in that it is making a distinction
based on race. When we are discussing affirmative action policies that
take race into account, we are inherently making distinctions based on
race. The original, and ongoing, justification for the those
distinctions is that some groups (we can use African-American as an
example here) are historically underrepresented in situations like
college (to continue on with the previous example). If you grow up in
a situation where none of your family and friends went to college,
chances are higher that you won't aspire to go to college. The
expectations around you are qualitatively different than if you grew
up in a situation where the people you are exposed to did go to
college.

Because the percentage of African-American citizens in this country
who have gone to college is lower than Caucasian citizens, the
likelihood of an African-American college applicant being one that
bucks the trend (not being exposed to an expectation of attaining
college education but pushing for it anyway) is higher. The hope is
that the percentage of African-American (and other) citizens who have
gone to college has equalized out with those of Caucasian citizens and
that essentially everyone has an equal environment (in the aggregate)
pushing for achievement and success.  And, of course, individuals will
always be exceptions to all the rules, but we are dealing with
policies which are formulated in the abstract.  And we, hopefully,
will always be trying to improve achievement and expectations
regardless of race.

The fact of the matter is that people who go to college tend to have
people around them who have gone to college. So by trying to increase
the number of people from underrepresented groups, like
African-Americans, amongst the college population we increase the
likelihood that future generations will have less disparity amongst
the representation of their ethnic groups in the college population.

Judah



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