You and I are talking about two different situations. You are talking
about a situation where one candidate is less qualified and elevated
above another. I am talking about a situation where both candidates
are qualified.

If you are talking about two candidates who are qualified for a
position you inherently have to make your choice based off of
something other than qualifications. There is an open question, as
Kris noted, about whether race still should be a considered factor
apart from qualifications. I'd argue that race still should be a
factor to consider when two candidates are qualified owing to the
positive outcome that such consideration has, but I'm by no means
certain.

Look at the history of affirmative action. How many African Americans,
Hispanics and Women did we have in Congress and leading large
corporations 30 years ago? How many do we have now? The success of the
proposal has made it so that we can now legitimately question whether
it is still a policy worth pursuing. There are far more role models
for people of all back grounds now in the upper echelons of business,
academics and politics than there used to be and that is a good thing.
The question now is: is that pattern self sustaining? Are we at a
point where diversity will continue of its own accord due to momentum
and greater equality of opportunity?  I don't know the answer to that.

Judah

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To me the Affirmative Action rationale says 'choose the non-white'.
> There have been many times where a less qualified non-caucasian has
> gotten a job, admission to college, etc, over a more qualified
> caucasian. (I have seen it first hand in previous jobs)
>
> Granted there have been a lot more times in the past (and likely in
> the present, too) where it has been the other way around, but that
> does not make it right.
>
> If it is discriminatory for one person to get a job because they are
> white, it is equally discriminatory for one person to get a job
> because they are not white.

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