On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Ian Skinner <h...@ilsweb.com> wrote: > > Yes, I did.
I don't think you did. > Failed again. My salary is higher then all those around me in the same > position. Must be the associate in the title. > I was hired above minimum, meaning I started in the middle of the salary > range for an Associate Programmer Analyst. I am now nearly at the top > of the range, one more raise will put me there. That means that until > and if I get a promotion to another job category, I can not get a > raise. But with the state hiring freeze that started this month, it > could be several years before that happens. Thus my salary may well > stall while the value of my salary steadily declines do to inflation. Time to get a promotion. > Nope I do not. It depends on how long I work. To get full pay one must > work for the state for 40 years. So, I would have to work until the age > of 80 to get that benefit. If I retire at 65, I would get 60%. I'll > spare you the entire spread sheet I have to calculate all the possible > permutations. 60% still a lot more than you will kick in. > Is there a match for your 401k? When I was in the private sector, I had > a 75% company match on the first 6% contribution to my 401k. And that > company had a pension fully paid by the employer. If that company had > not been relocating to Florida in 2000, I would probably still be at > that job. That still doesn't bring the numbers up. > Now I have a pension with a company match. What is the big difference? > Especially since the pension that you are bemoaning being paid the > retires are from the retires contributions, a reasonable match very > comparable to the private sector and the investments earned in the > market on those monies. If the state had not borrowed from the pension > fund for past budget short falls, future taxes would not be required to > pay for the retires. That's bullshit and you know it. The pension system was a ponzi scheme based on more workers paying in and people not living long. Now that's reversed and the pyramid is upside down. > Yes, I did. That is why I said it cost me more for less coverage since > I came to work for the state. Do you still get health benefits after you retire or does it end with employment like the rest of us? > And the monies I pay into the pension are invested in the very same > market as your 401k funds are. If the government would keep their money > grubbing mitts out of that pot then my future pension payout would come > from my contributions and what it earned in the market. Again pure BS. Your pension is guaranteed to return a certain rate no matter how poorly your 401k performs. > Why not, I'm paying for that benefit. I'm paying just as much and getting much less. > But no that was not the reason. Again this isn't really about you, it's about the masses and your personal situation doesn't matter for the big picture. It's > And your taxes wouldn't if your politicians would not try to take the > money *I* for which I worked hard. You mean your free ride after you put in a do ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:334701 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
