On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:
>
> You do realize that we've had voting for centuries in our country,
> with rolls, where most people didn't have government issued ID, right?

Isn't that how Kennedy became president?

> Voting, unlike driving, having a bank account, etc. is a
> Constitutionally guaranteed right of *every single citizen*.

Nope.

> Any time
> you have a constitutionally guaranteed right, you have to set a very
> high bar indeed to justify any incursion against it. Not a sense of
> "this seems reasonable" but a seriously high standard. Yes, Felons can
> have their voting rights revoked while they are in prison. That is a
> very severe case. But even then, the right to vote is either restored
> automatically upon being released or else can be regained by petition
> after you finish your sentence.

Differs by state

> Requiring ID to vote is a solution in search of a problem. There are
> no modern documented incidents of voting fraud. There are some
> incidents of registration fraud, fairly few and far between, but no
> incidents of voting fraud. There is nothing requiring *any* incursion
> against a guaranteed constitutional right no matter how "reasonable"
> you or anyone else thinks it might be. Period.

64,000 in New Mexico for starters.

> Voting is a right, not a privilege. That means you don't get to fuck
> with it even if you think it's a nifty idea.

Is it ok if we fix it?

.

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