So, it Ok to cheat if it helps your team, but not if it only helps you? :D
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > golf is an individual, playing against thyself and the course. hoping > that your score bests everyone elses. > > soccer is a team sport, where you try to do everything you can to help > your team win. > > idk, i play, have played both, and see a ton of distinction betwixt the two > and have no problem playing one with strict laws, and the other with > the grit and fire and passion to do anything to help my team win. > > color me crazy :) > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> So, why is it OK to cheat in soccer, but not golf? Do soccer players >> have less integrity than golfers? >> >> I do not buy 'taking a dive' is a 'part of the game' any more than I >> buy that trying to cheat the rules is a part of any other sport or >> game. >> >> To me, there is no difference between a soccer player taking a dive >> trying to elicit a penalty and a golfer improving their lie (or not >> calling a penalty on themselves that should be called). And I would >> prefer not wasting my time watching either. >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> golf is sacred. that's why. it is built upon integrity, and laws of the >>> game. >>> nothing about it is subjective or left to interpretation. so yeah, no. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Could you not say its 'crafty' for a golfer to try and improve their >>>> lie? Are you OK with cheating under those circumstances? Or is it only >>>> when its considered 'part of the game' to roll around like a pansy >>>> hoping to get a penalty called on your opponent? >>>> >>>> I know it happens in other sports (players pretending to be hit by a >>>> pitch in baseball, or pretending to be interfered with in football, >>>> for example), but not only are they less prevalent, but they are more >>>> likely to be 'caught' and not have the penalty called (or given a base >>>> or whatever). And yes, I hate it when these players do the same thing. >>>> >>>> Its not mental, its not crafty, its not pushing lines....its cheating >>>> - just like improving your lie when no one can see it. >>>> >>>> I think back to the golf tournament last year where Brian Davis, in a >>>> sudden death playoff, with Jim Furyk called a penalty on himself - >>>> which could only be seen in 'super slow motion' replay. It not only >>>> cost him the tournament, and about $400,000, but he missed out on an >>>> exception to the US Open. You will NEVER see that type of gamesmanship >>>> in a professional soccer game....EVER. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> idk, i love it. to me, its all part of the game. sport isnt just the >>>>> bat and >>>>> the ball, or the foot and the ball, its mental, its being crafty, its >>>>> pushing lines, >>>>> its subject referee's and umpires and their subjective calls. and if >>>>> im smarter or >>>>> slicker than the eyes of the official... more power to me! >>>>> >>>>> bring on the FRENCH WOMEN, its time to shut them down on wednesday. >>>>> >>>>> let's go girls! >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If pretending to get hurt to draw a penalty is 'part of the >>>>>> game'...that is not a game I wish to partake in, or even spend my time >>>>>> watching. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most times I have seen someone 'take a dive', the ref does nothing but >>>>>> call a penalty - while the player who was just writhing in pain on the >>>>>> field gets up and runs away like nothing happened. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, in my opinion, that is not 'gamesmanship', its cheating or, at >>>>>> the very least, an attempt at cheating. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i REALLY dont get why people have such problems with this. >>>>>>> its gamesmanship. and look where it got brazil! a LOSS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the only reason there was enough time for the USA to score >>>>>>> was due to the fake ass fall of the player "Erika" i think, and when >>>>>>> the ref (Who was a fucktard most of the game) saw her just walk away, >>>>>>> etc >>>>>>> gave her a yellow card, and then went on to add more time! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> excellent mastery of the gamesmanship inside soccer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> idk, i love it all... its all part of the game. sometimes it helps you >>>>>>> sometimes it hinders you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and now brazil is sitting because of it! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> w000t >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson <jmi...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Grrr! Don't get me started. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Ray Champagne <r...@raychampagne.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't forget to teach them how to dive properly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:340231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
