yup ;) On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So, it Ok to cheat if it helps your team, but not if it only helps you? :D > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> golf is an individual, playing against thyself and the course. hoping >> that your score bests everyone elses. >> >> soccer is a team sport, where you try to do everything you can to help >> your team win. >> >> idk, i play, have played both, and see a ton of distinction betwixt the two >> and have no problem playing one with strict laws, and the other with >> the grit and fire and passion to do anything to help my team win. >> >> color me crazy :) >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> So, why is it OK to cheat in soccer, but not golf? Do soccer players >>> have less integrity than golfers? >>> >>> I do not buy 'taking a dive' is a 'part of the game' any more than I >>> buy that trying to cheat the rules is a part of any other sport or >>> game. >>> >>> To me, there is no difference between a soccer player taking a dive >>> trying to elicit a penalty and a golfer improving their lie (or not >>> calling a penalty on themselves that should be called). And I would >>> prefer not wasting my time watching either. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> golf is sacred. that's why. it is built upon integrity, and laws of the >>>> game. >>>> nothing about it is subjective or left to interpretation. so yeah, no. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Could you not say its 'crafty' for a golfer to try and improve their >>>>> lie? Are you OK with cheating under those circumstances? Or is it only >>>>> when its considered 'part of the game' to roll around like a pansy >>>>> hoping to get a penalty called on your opponent? >>>>> >>>>> I know it happens in other sports (players pretending to be hit by a >>>>> pitch in baseball, or pretending to be interfered with in football, >>>>> for example), but not only are they less prevalent, but they are more >>>>> likely to be 'caught' and not have the penalty called (or given a base >>>>> or whatever). And yes, I hate it when these players do the same thing. >>>>> >>>>> Its not mental, its not crafty, its not pushing lines....its cheating >>>>> - just like improving your lie when no one can see it. >>>>> >>>>> I think back to the golf tournament last year where Brian Davis, in a >>>>> sudden death playoff, with Jim Furyk called a penalty on himself - >>>>> which could only be seen in 'super slow motion' replay. It not only >>>>> cost him the tournament, and about $400,000, but he missed out on an >>>>> exception to the US Open. You will NEVER see that type of gamesmanship >>>>> in a professional soccer game....EVER. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> idk, i love it. to me, its all part of the game. sport isnt just the >>>>>> bat and >>>>>> the ball, or the foot and the ball, its mental, its being crafty, its >>>>>> pushing lines, >>>>>> its subject referee's and umpires and their subjective calls. and if >>>>>> im smarter or >>>>>> slicker than the eyes of the official... more power to me! >>>>>> >>>>>> bring on the FRENCH WOMEN, its time to shut them down on wednesday. >>>>>> >>>>>> let's go girls! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If pretending to get hurt to draw a penalty is 'part of the >>>>>>> game'...that is not a game I wish to partake in, or even spend my time >>>>>>> watching. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Most times I have seen someone 'take a dive', the ref does nothing but >>>>>>> call a penalty - while the player who was just writhing in pain on the >>>>>>> field gets up and runs away like nothing happened. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, in my opinion, that is not 'gamesmanship', its cheating or, at >>>>>>> the very least, an attempt at cheating. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i REALLY dont get why people have such problems with this. >>>>>>>> its gamesmanship. and look where it got brazil! a LOSS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the only reason there was enough time for the USA to score >>>>>>>> was due to the fake ass fall of the player "Erika" i think, and when >>>>>>>> the ref (Who was a fucktard most of the game) saw her just walk away, >>>>>>>> etc >>>>>>>> gave her a yellow card, and then went on to add more time! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> excellent mastery of the gamesmanship inside soccer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> idk, i love it all... its all part of the game. sometimes it helps you >>>>>>>> sometimes it hinders you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and now brazil is sitting because of it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> w000t >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson <jmi...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Grrr! Don't get me started. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Ray Champagne >>>>>>>>> <r...@raychampagne.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't forget to teach them how to dive properly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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