Based on the games I have watched - pretty much limited to the World Cup - 'taking a dive' seems more prevalent than..you know.. actually scoring a goal. If it happens a lot in the World Cup, I do not think its unreasonable to think it happens as often in other levels of play.
I understand that sometimes guys do actually get hurt, I also understand that there are times when a guy needs to 'shake it off' - but it seems to me, more often than not, that the pain goes away when a) the ref calls a penalty, b) player realizes ref was not looking or c) player realizes the ref is not going to call a penalty. In which case, they stop rolling around on the field as if they were shot and go happily on their way. I honestly could not blame anyone for having a negative opinion of Major League Baseball when it comes to 'juicing up'. Even though it may be the minority of players, its still enough to give the game a bad name - BTW - I consider that cheating and loathe them as much as the 'divers' in soccer. Your dog fighting and texting pictures of their junk examples are poor because in each, only one player was implicated. If it was a prevalent as guys being pansies and taking a dive in soccer, I would agree there too, but its not, so I won't. Sorry...'taking a dive' is cheap theatrics, and even though it appears to be condoned by the governing body of soccer, I think it still falls under the heading of 'cheating'. Even if it a legitimate foul, and you 'sell' it but being overly dramatic - its still cheap, and in my mind, still cheating. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > > In a game that's so widespread it's completely logical that different areas > of the world play the game differently. People that generally don't follow > football characterize it based actions of the minority. It's like saying you > wouldn't watch baseball because it's all juice heads. Or won't watch > American Football because the players all email pictures of their junk or > have dog fighting rings. Some countries do more "acting" than others. And > most footballers hate diving more than you do Scott. > > However not all "rolling around on the pitch" is acting. There are many many > times when you take a knock and it really does hurt like hell for 30 seconds > and then you get up and play through it. There's many times when you aren't > sure whether or not you've broken your leg or ruptured your knee. One needs > to remember that the only protection you wear in football is a thin slice of > plastic over your shin. That's not to say there aren't times when you don't > make a meal out of being fouled in order to get the call, which, if you were > legitimately fouled, is well deserved. > > It's important to remember as well, that if your only exposure to football > is watching world cup or euro cup, that it's often the usual suspects. You > see Portugal, Italy, Greece, Brazil, Mexico, Argentina over and over again. > And these teams, in those areas of the world, are much more prone to > embellishment. Why? Simple. Their style of football is less physical. They > are a much more clinical style with more emphasis on finesse, so if they get > fouled in the slightest they immediately go down to accentuate the fact they > were fouled. It's also part cultural. Ever watch an Italian or Greek talk? > It's very dramatic. The same goes for their footie. However if you look at > teams from North America or Europe, you don't see this. Watch England v > Germany or Netherlands v Russia and you'll see a much more physical style. > You'll see players get fouled and stay on their feet time and time again. > > Diving is a problem in the sport, but it's hardly a pandemic and it's > certainly a small enough part of the game that it's extremely short sighted > to discount the whole sport because a very small percentage of people play > without honour. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> If pretending to get hurt to draw a penalty is 'part of the >> game'...that is not a game I wish to partake in, or even spend my time >> watching. >> >> Most times I have seen someone 'take a dive', the ref does nothing but >> call a penalty - while the player who was just writhing in pain on the >> field gets up and runs away like nothing happened. >> >> Sorry, in my opinion, that is not 'gamesmanship', its cheating or, at >> the very least, an attempt at cheating. >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > i REALLY dont get why people have such problems with this. >> > its gamesmanship. and look where it got brazil! a LOSS. >> > >> > the only reason there was enough time for the USA to score >> > was due to the fake ass fall of the player "Erika" i think, and when >> > the ref (Who was a fucktard most of the game) saw her just walk away, etc >> > gave her a yellow card, and then went on to add more time! >> > >> > excellent mastery of the gamesmanship inside soccer. >> > >> > idk, i love it all... its all part of the game. sometimes it helps you >> > sometimes it hinders you. >> > >> > and now brazil is sitting because of it! >> > >> > w000t >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson <jmi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Grrr! Don't get me started. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Ray Champagne <r...@raychampagne.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Don't forget to teach them how to dive properly. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:340246 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
