I was referring to specific groups like the puritans or early mormons.
Those groups practiced a brand of religious intolerance that tried to
get it enshrined in the law. That strain of religiosity is far too
prevalent here. The recent firebombing of a mosque under construction
in Tennessee is a good example. The strain of deism and tolerance that
Jefferson and many of the other founders followed has mostly died out
in the US.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:
>
> The Universalists and Deists (Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Rush, etc)
> sought religious freedom for all. Religion (and a-religion) in United
> States at the time of the founding was a complex patch work. Can't
> paint it so easily with a single broad brush.
>
> Judah
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I thought that they sought religious freedom for themselves, so they
>> could joyfully suppress others. E.g., the puritans in new england or
>> the catholics in Maryland really had a lot of fun suppressing any
>> other christian or indian religion within their territorial bounds.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:56 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Eric Roberts <
>>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ther is already exemptions for conscientious objectors...so they are
>>>> covered.  Not all conscientious objectors do so for religious reasons.  I
>>>> think these faiths need to get out of the middle ages and modernize a bit.
>>>> We don't allow others to walk around carrying large knives that can almost
>>>> be considered a short sword, so why should they be special?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps because this country was founded by people who risked their lives
>>> seeking a nation that would provide them religious freedom....? Sure their
>>> idea of religious freedom was a bit different, but the spirit has broadened
>>> and endured and become a bedrock of Americanism.
>>>
>>> This means we do what we can, within the confines of what is reasonable, to
>>> accommodate people's religious beliefs...no matter how ridiculous they seem.
>>>
>>> So really, there is no debate as to whether we should allow some religious
>>> exemptions....we should....the question is, what constitutes "reasonable",
>>> and when does it become truly criminal?
>>>
>>> For instance, passively murdering your child seems....criminal to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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