Basic rule of science is when a scientist speaks about something
outside their own field, their opinion is worth as much as any
nonscientist who is ignorant of the same thing,.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Eric Roberts
<ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Other scientists...are they neuroscientists?  Or just scientists in another
> field who are probably conservative and disagree with it for the same
> reasons you do rather than actually having looked a the data and commenting
> from a position of expertise?  If an astrophysicist says something about a
> star and a biologist says he disagrees with it...I am probably going to side
> with the astrophysicist.  If another astrophysicist says something, then
> that makes a world of difference.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Fox News? Really can this be called a News channel?
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> in terms of the stuff in the article that is upsetting you it may matter.
>
> It's not upsetting me. My common sense says it's biased. The facts say it's
> biased. Other scientists say it's biased. You will die defending it without
> knowing anything about it. You wonder why I call you Larry's twin. This is
> it. You'l defend to no ends something ridiculous just because you don't like
> people that disagree with you.
>
>
>> Assuming you looked and it mentions this article. More likely it's a
>> meta-analysis for methodology for whatever he was looking at when he
>> wrote it, which is not to say that the remarks in methodology may not
>> apply to the University research.... would have to compare the two and
>> I probably won't.
>>
>> To me it's another journal article. If you think they never contradict
>> each other, i dunno what to tell you. I am not sure, assuming he is
>> even talking about the article Larry posted, whether the thingies he
>> says where counted wrong were the bits I was asking Larry about, the
>> leave one out analysis times a thousand, which I think deals with
>> scoring the MRIs, or whether it's in the questionnaire.
>
>
> Wow, you asked fro google scholar and you got it, now it's just a journal
> article because it doesn't suit you?
> I should point out it has 334 cites while the study you didn't read or
> understand has two.
> But your point is if it's peer reviewed it cannot be denied. Yet here it is
> and you're trying your darndest to deny it.
>
>
>> If I ever can be bothered to look that won't be tonight, because I am
>> doing stuff. Larry may be doing it, also, in which case I will if he
> explains it.
>> If not... I am not that invested in proving or disproving this,
>> whereas you, if I may say, seem to be taking it as a personal affront.
>
> You are the one that can't seem to let it go. If you walked away as you
> attempt to do above by saying you don't care either way that's fine. But you
> belittle me with how successful you were at make the fool of me. That's the
> only thing driving this discussion, your personal attacks. Realize that and
> you have no reason to hate me and we can talk like adults. Never happen.
>
>
>> And none of the above changes the basic inequalities
>>
>> journal article>blog post
>
> Dana> journal article 8 pages 2 cites
> Sam > journal article 290 pages 334 cites
>
> .
>
>
>
> 

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