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On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm saying that if I understand you, your proposed alternate procedure > would be to keep someone like this out of the general population, in a cell > by himself. And that that's great, and would in fact be a good idea if > there were clear-cut criteria for doing so, except for one thing. As a > rule, jails are over-crowded and there may not be enough individual cells > available. SO what might work ok for 3-4 hours while someone arranges for > bail would not be practical in cases like this whether the man was held for > a week. I agree that from what I know about this he should not have been > held for a week. But the point is, past 24 hours or so, you're starting to > look like you'll be there a while. > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com>wrote: > >> >> I'm not sure what you're saying, Dana. >> >> Judah >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > ok, but you're arguing for keeping people in individual cells, which is >> > fine for a few hours maybe, but impractical for the week this man was >> > incarcerated, not to mention that it would itself draw complaints of >> > inhumane treatment. >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> I'll let the lead author of the dissent, Justice Breyer, in this case >> >> take out your argument: >> >> >> >> **** >> >> The New York Federal District Court, to which I have referred, >> >> conducted a study of 23,000 persons admitted to the Orange County >> >> correctional facility between 1999 and 2003.These 23,000 persons >> >> underwent a strip search of the kind described. Of these 23,000 >> >> persons, the court wrote, the County encountered three incidents of >> >> drugs recovered from an inmates anal cavity and two incidents of >> >> drugs falling from an inmates underwear during the course of a strip >> >> search. The court added that in four of these five instances there >> >> may have been reasonable suspicion to search, leaving only one >> >> instance in 23,000 in which the strip search policy arguably >> >> detected additional contraband. >> >> >> >> [...] After all, those arrested for minor offenses are often stopped >> >> and arrested unexpectedly. And they consequently will have had little >> >> opportunity to hide things in their body cavities. >> >> >> >> **** >> >> >> >> 1 incident out of 23,000 that might have uncovered something illicit >> >> with a strip search that was not based on reasonable suspicion. And no >> >> incidents that found any weapons. >> >> >> >> Now, about these hypotheticals y'all keep saying aren't hypothetical... >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349403 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
