I'l admit that this is interesting information, though I'd need more info for it to change my mind. The most important information I'd want would be comparable stats for a jurisdiction that did *not* conduct blanket strip searches. We can't know if the searches prevented contraband without something to compare it to. There is a bit of a challenge in there that it's hard to know what you didn't find, though I suspect there may be data on items discovered *after* being smuggled in.
I will say this... I have been to visit someone incarcerated in a Georgia Prison several times. Visitors in this prison were subject to metal detectors, pat downs, and removal of shoe/belts (similar to a TSA search). With this level of search, I do know for a fact that contraband was smuggled into the prison by visitors. I don't know where they hid it, but I know it happened. I'm not saying that visitors should be strip searched, but I am using my (admittedly anecdotal) experience as an example of what happens when the rules are known to exclude strip searches. Having said that - unfortunately today's schedule is a little busier than yesterday so I'm just going to watch the rest of this thread play out from tomorrow. -Cameron On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote: > I'll let the lead author of the dissent, Justice Breyer, in this case > take out your argument: > > **** > The New York Federal District Court, to which I have referred, > conducted a study of 23,000 persons admitted to the Orange County > correctional facility between 1999 and 2003.These 23,000 persons > underwent a strip search of the kind described. Of these 23,000 > persons, the court wrote, the County encountered three incidents of > drugs recovered from an inmates anal cavity and two incidents of > drugs falling from an inmates underwear during the course of a strip > search. The court added that in four of these five instances there > may have been reasonable suspicion to search, leaving only one > instance in 23,000 in which the strip search policy arguably > detected additional contraband. > > [...] After all, those arrested for minor offenses are often stopped > and arrested unexpectedly. And they consequently will have had little > opportunity to hide things in their body cavities. > > **** > > 1 incident out of 23,000 that might have uncovered something illicit > with a strip search that was not based on reasonable suspicion. And no > incidents that found any weapons. > > Now, about these hypotheticals y'all keep saying aren't hypothetical... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349443 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
