Britain was a subset of the Roman empire, as were many other countries...that doesn't mean that Britain wasn't a country in its own right...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine -----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:51 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And Waiting For A Western Attack durig the crusades it was its own kingdom. from 1918 through 1949 it was an independent country ruled under a League of Nations Mandate. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > A subset of the roman empire yes? > > As in not an independent nation state? > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts < > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > >> >> Romans called it Palestine after they sent the Jews on their >> diaspora...it wasn't a subset, but the entire area... >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And >> Waiting For A Western Attack >> >> >> When was it anything else but a subsection of another country? >> >> You know when? When it was Judea, that's when. >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Eric Roberts < >> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > How is that? There is documentation going back to the Roman empire >> > calling he region Palestine... >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:04 PM >> > To: cf-community >> > Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And >> > Waiting For A Western Attack >> > >> > >> > Agreed. >> > >> > That's why the way I see out of this mess requires us to use >> > overwhelming force against them. To the point of capitulation. >> > >> > This won't work as a one nation solution though. >> > >> > Ok, look, I have spent years of my life in Muslim countries. Not >> > just Afghanistan, but places like Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi, Qatar, and >> > various stans. >> > There are distinct cultural differences in many of these countries, >> > but Islam is the one unifying force, the Umma. Islam is not just a >> > religion, but a social and political system as well. It requires >> > total submission of the individual and the will, suspension of logic. >> > It was started by a merchant warlord who also happened to be a >> > pedophile, who advocated the murder, rape and enslavement of anyone >> > who didn't agree with his ideas. I have read of the Qur'an and the >> > Sunnah, and I know what they say. This so called religion of peace >> > has been an evil bloody thorn in our side since before the founding >> > of our nation (Barbary wars?) and will continue to be so until it >> > is stamped out. It is an ideology as evil, or even more so, as >> > that of fascism or communism. >> > >> > You can lie, cheat and steal from the infidel, take them as slaves, >> > sexually assault them, charge them fess to live among you. Free >> > speech and free will are totally alien concepts. >> > >> > I am not a man of strong religious convictions., a true agnostic, I >> > have no idea what if anything is out there. To be honest I don't >> > understand anyone, no matter the religion, that claims to have >> > knowledge of the "true faith". >> > Yet I see in Islam something worse then simple religion. Maybe >> > there can be a reformation, like with Christianity. I have my >> > doubts where that is concerned though. >> > >> > The minority of "moderate muslims", and I do know some, refuse to >> > take a stand against their brothers in most cases, because they >> > know that the extremists are correct in their readings, and that >> > their actions are blessed by the religious establishments, and >> > called for by their guiding books. >> > >> > Islam (the word in Arabic) means submission. It's teachings and >> > principles follow from that starting pioint. >> > >> > It is more complex even, hell I know it ends the argument, but many >> > of the current crop of issues we have can even be tied directly to >> > the Nazi's, the Baath parties were founded by men that modeled them >> > directly on the NSDAP and they were supported politically and >> > financially by the Nazis. The "Palestinian Issue" was further >> > inflamed by the Nazis (not to mention that no such country of >> > Palestine >> ever existed but thats another argument). >> > >> > I don't see many things as EVILT, but in Islam I find the label fitting. >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Look, we screwed up, overthrew their government and put a tin >> > > > pot >> > > dictator >> > > > in power. They revolted and created their bat shit crazy >> > > > Islamic republic. It should have and could have ended there. >> > > > I mean it took us >> > > a >> > > > while to get ove the revolutionary war, but now we're the best >> > > > of friends with England. These guys just really don't know >> > > > when to let >> > shit go. >> > > > >> > > > After the embassy hostages were released when they were so >> > > > scared of >> > > Reagan >> > > > they could have reentered the world stage, but instead went >> > > > into a long protracted war with Iraq. >> > > > >> > > > Do I know bad decision were made by the CIA? Yes. That >> > > > doesn't mean >> > > they >> > > > should be shipping weapons to Afghans decades later. >> > > > >> > > >> > > well that's the problem. Once you start fucking with people, >> > > there's no guarantee they are going to stop fucking with you >> > > back...just because you ask them nicely or call "time out" >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349946 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm