India was a much more complex case. While it was an integral part of
the empire, it was ruled by a Viceroy, directly under the crown. That
is very difference from the commonwealth who were run by
Governor-Generals, and local parliaments.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Eric Roberts
<ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> So was India...
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:40 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> They were a British protectorate under that mandate, not a nation state,
>> nice try though.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > durig the crusades it was its own kingdom. from 1918 through 1949 it
>> > was an independent country ruled under a League of Nations Mandate.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > A subset of the roman empire yes?
>> > >
>> > > As in not an independent nation state?
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Romans called it Palestine after they sent the Jews on their
>> > diaspora...it
>> > >> wasn't a subset, but the entire area...
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
>> > >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM
>> > >> To: cf-community
>> > >> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And
>> > Waiting
>> > >> For A Western Attack
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> When was it anything else but a subsection of another country?
>> > >>
>> > >> You know when?  When it was Judea, that's when.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> > >> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > How is that?  There is documentation going back to the Roman empire
>> > >> > calling he region Palestine...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:04 PM
>> > >> > To: cf-community
>> > >> > Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And
>> > >> > Waiting For A Western Attack
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Agreed.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > That's why the way I see out of this mess requires us to use
>> > >> > overwhelming force against them.  To the point of capitulation.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > This won't work as a one nation solution though.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Ok, look, I have spent years of my life in Muslim countries.  Not
>> just
>> > >> > Afghanistan, but places like Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi, Qatar, and
>> various
>> > >> > stans.
>> > >> > There are distinct cultural differences in many of these countries,
>> > >> > but Islam is the one unifying force, the Umma.  Islam is not just a
>> > >> > religion, but a social and political system as well.  It requires
>> > >> > total submission of the individual and the will, suspension of
>> logic.
>> > >> > It was started by a merchant warlord who also happened to be a
>>  > >> > pedophile, who advocated the murder, rape and enslavement of
>> anyone
>> > >> > who didn't agree with his ideas.  I have read of the Qur'an and the
>> > >> > Sunnah, and I know what they say.  This so called religion of peace
>> > >> > has been an evil bloody thorn in our side since before the founding
>> of
>> > >> > our nation (Barbary wars?) and will continue to be so until it is
>> > >> > stamped out.  It is an ideology as evil, or even more so, as that of
>> > >> > fascism or communism.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > You can lie, cheat and steal from the infidel, take them as slaves,
>> > >> > sexually assault them, charge them fess to live among you.  Free
>> > >> > speech and free will are totally alien concepts.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I am not a man of strong religious convictions., a true agnostic, I
>> > >> > have no idea what if anything is out there.  To be honest I don't
>> > >> > understand anyone, no matter the religion, that claims to have
>> > >> > knowledge of the "true faith".
>> > >> > Yet I see in Islam something worse then simple religion.  Maybe
>> there
>> > >> > can be a reformation, like with Christianity.  I have my doubts
>> where
>> > >> > that is concerned though.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The minority of "moderate muslims", and I do know some, refuse to
>> take
>> > >> > a stand against their brothers in most cases, because they know that
>> > >> > the extremists are correct in their readings, and that their actions
>> > >> > are blessed by the religious establishments, and called for by their
>> > >> > guiding books.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Islam (the word in Arabic) means submission.  It's teachings and
>> > >> > principles follow from that starting pioint.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > It is more complex even, hell I know it ends the argument, but many
>> of
>> > >> > the current crop of issues we have can even be tied directly to the
>> > >> > Nazi's, the Baath parties were founded by men that modeled them
>> > >> > directly on the NSDAP and they were supported politically and
>> > >> > financially by the Nazis.  The "Palestinian Issue" was further
>> > >> > inflamed by the Nazis (not to mention that no such country of
>> > Palestine
>> > >> ever existed but thats another argument).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I don't see many things as EVILT, but in Islam I find the label
>> > fitting.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Look, we screwed up, overthrew their government and put a tin
>> pot
>> > >> > > dictator
>> > >> > > > in power.  They revolted and created their bat shit crazy
>> Islamic
>> > >> > > > republic.  It should have and could have ended there.  I mean it
>> > >> > > > took us
>> > >> > > a
>> > >> > > > while to get ove the revolutionary war, but now we're the best
>> of
>> > >> > > > friends with England.  These guys just really don't know when to
>> > >> > > > let
>> > >> > shit go.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > After the embassy hostages were released when they were so
>> scared
>> > >> > > > of
>> > >> > > Reagan
>> > >> > > > they could have reentered the world stage, but instead went
>> into a
>> > >> > > > long protracted war with Iraq.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Do I know bad decision were made by the CIA?  Yes.  That doesn't
>> > >> > > > mean
>> > >> > > they
>> > >> > > > should be shipping weapons to Afghans decades later.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > well that's the problem. Once you start fucking with people,
>> there's
>> > >> > > no guarantee they are going to stop fucking with you back...just
>> > >> > > because you ask them nicely or call "time out"
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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