isnt it "amassing", not "massing" On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Britain was a subset of the Roman empire, as were many other > countries...that doesn't mean that Britain wasn't a country in its own > right... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:51 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And Waiting > For A Western Attack > > > durig the crusades it was its own kingdom. from 1918 through 1949 it was an > independent country ruled under a League of Nations Mandate. > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> A subset of the roman empire yes? >> >> As in not an independent nation state? >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts < >> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Romans called it Palestine after they sent the Jews on their >>> diaspora...it wasn't a subset, but the entire area... >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And >>> Waiting For A Western Attack >>> >>> >>> When was it anything else but a subsection of another country? >>> >>> You know when? When it was Judea, that's when. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Eric Roberts < >>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > How is that? There is documentation going back to the Roman empire >>> > calling he region Palestine... >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >>> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:04 PM >>> > To: cf-community >>> > Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And >>> > Waiting For A Western Attack >>> > >>> > >>> > Agreed. >>> > >>> > That's why the way I see out of this mess requires us to use >>> > overwhelming force against them. To the point of capitulation. >>> > >>> > This won't work as a one nation solution though. >>> > >>> > Ok, look, I have spent years of my life in Muslim countries. Not >>> > just Afghanistan, but places like Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi, Qatar, and >>> > various stans. >>> > There are distinct cultural differences in many of these countries, >>> > but Islam is the one unifying force, the Umma. Islam is not just a >>> > religion, but a social and political system as well. It requires >>> > total submission of the individual and the will, suspension of logic. >>> > It was started by a merchant warlord who also happened to be a >>> > pedophile, who advocated the murder, rape and enslavement of anyone >>> > who didn't agree with his ideas. I have read of the Qur'an and the >>> > Sunnah, and I know what they say. This so called religion of peace >>> > has been an evil bloody thorn in our side since before the founding >>> > of our nation (Barbary wars?) and will continue to be so until it >>> > is stamped out. It is an ideology as evil, or even more so, as >>> > that of fascism or communism. >>> > >>> > You can lie, cheat and steal from the infidel, take them as slaves, >>> > sexually assault them, charge them fess to live among you. Free >>> > speech and free will are totally alien concepts. >>> > >>> > I am not a man of strong religious convictions., a true agnostic, I >>> > have no idea what if anything is out there. To be honest I don't >>> > understand anyone, no matter the religion, that claims to have >>> > knowledge of the "true faith". >>> > Yet I see in Islam something worse then simple religion. Maybe >>> > there can be a reformation, like with Christianity. I have my >>> > doubts where that is concerned though. >>> > >>> > The minority of "moderate muslims", and I do know some, refuse to >>> > take a stand against their brothers in most cases, because they >>> > know that the extremists are correct in their readings, and that >>> > their actions are blessed by the religious establishments, and >>> > called for by their guiding books. >>> > >>> > Islam (the word in Arabic) means submission. It's teachings and >>> > principles follow from that starting pioint. >>> > >>> > It is more complex even, hell I know it ends the argument, but many >>> > of the current crop of issues we have can even be tied directly to >>> > the Nazi's, the Baath parties were founded by men that modeled them >>> > directly on the NSDAP and they were supported politically and >>> > financially by the Nazis. The "Palestinian Issue" was further >>> > inflamed by the Nazis (not to mention that no such country of >>> > Palestine >>> ever existed but thats another argument). >>> > >>> > I don't see many things as EVILT, but in Islam I find the label > fitting. >>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Look, we screwed up, overthrew their government and put a tin >>> > > > pot >>> > > dictator >>> > > > in power. They revolted and created their bat shit crazy >>> > > > Islamic republic. It should have and could have ended there. >>> > > > I mean it took us >>> > > a >>> > > > while to get ove the revolutionary war, but now we're the best >>> > > > of friends with England. These guys just really don't know >>> > > > when to let >>> > shit go. >>> > > > >>> > > > After the embassy hostages were released when they were so >>> > > > scared of >>> > > Reagan >>> > > > they could have reentered the world stage, but instead went >>> > > > into a long protracted war with Iraq. >>> > > > >>> > > > Do I know bad decision were made by the CIA? Yes. That >>> > > > doesn't mean >>> > > they >>> > > > should be shipping weapons to Afghans decades later. >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > well that's the problem. Once you start fucking with people, >>> > > there's no guarantee they are going to stop fucking with you >>> > > back...just because you ask them nicely or call "time out" >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >
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